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    Always cautious about morning glories, but given the context, the big prize, the decent opposition, that was just about the most impressive bumper performance I’ve ever seen.

    #1581872
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    If he was to do similar at Cheltenham, wouldn’t you be tempted to try him on the flat, to see just how good he was? I certainly would….

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    Considering how competitive Wicklow Brave was on the flat, always thought Faugheen or Annie P would have a chance in the Ascot Gold cup.

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    Just shy of kilcruits rating last season, tough to pick holes in it though

    Pink in the park is most certainly nowhere near this and ill have to swallow that one,

    Will be clinging onto redemption day for this should they send him, i stilll feel he’d have done something similar yesterday and patrick surprisingly didnt seem to keen to say FV was by far and away better and who knows what mike is, elliott/codd seem to think hes something special anyway

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    Jamie Codd causing disarray at the ATR Preview Night….

    “When Patrick Mullins got off Facile Vega at Leopardstown I spoke to him as he was walking back in and I said, wow, that was brilliant. He said they had a better one at home in Redemption Day.”

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    Don’t Really get the mad hype about that comment, Patrick said it after the race on live tv lol

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    Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!

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    TomBarkley87
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    You’re right Jack, he did mention him aye. He didn’t seem keen to put him above Facile Vega though. When questioned by Nick Luck if the favourite was far superior to the rest at Closutton, Patrick said ‘Redemption Day is up there with him…he’d have to be in the conversation.’

    If we’re treating the Coddfather’s word as gospel (if) then there would be a fair lick of difference between the two statements.

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    The favourite is Facile Vega, currently 1.90 for the race. He’s raced twice so far and is a son of Que Vega who won 6 mares hurdles in a row. In his first race he won easily but was pushed out from 2f out and his time was 10 seconds faster than 2m hurdle – Fil Dor. Fil Dor not pushed, Fil Dor is currently 3rd favourite for the Triumph hurdle and rated 142.
    In his 2nd race, he won easily again, less pushing out. Only from 2nd to 1st last furlong, then relaxed. He won both races by 6 lengths. In his 2nd race he was 3 seconds faster than the 2m hurdle winner Vauban who opposes Fil Dor in the Triumph and is favourite for that. He is rated 145.
    Facile Vega has an awesome mother who was more than proven at Cheltenham. He has been pushed to accelerate and responded, still don’t know where the bottom is but he has been asked to find something.

    The 2nd favourite @3.50 is American Mike (who I have at 13.00 😛). In his first race Jamie Codd was motionless, didn’t even touch him. Despite not touching him, he finished 7 seconds faster than the 2m hurdle winner Eskylane (131 at time, now 151!) is 9th Fav for County hurdle.

    In his 2nd race he was imperious again. Codd gave him one shake of the reigns and he won by 17 lengths. Good gallop set by 2nd and the time is the fastest of the ones I’ve looked at in detail when you factor in the weight. Codd has been very very bullish when it comes to American Mike, as have the yard saying that he’s by far the best they’ve got. Something you can’t say about the Mullins camp.

    That brings me on to third favourite Redemption day who has only raced once. Patrick gave him 2 small shakes of the reigns to quicken, didn’t move afterwards. Ruby said in the comments after the race that he has loads of gears (didn’t need to show too many of them after two shakes of the reigns) and that he won hard, hard on the bridle.

    He raced 2 days later than Facile at Leopardstown and the ground had gone from soft(facile) to good to soft(redemption). Not a direct comparison admittedly but Facile was 5 seconds faster but was really asked to accelerate with bouncing up and down vs 2 shakes. Redemption was also carrying 5lbs more. I am also pretty happy with the comments from Ruby about gears. Redemption Day is currently 7.00.

    Overall, this looks a tasty renewal. American Mike was favourite until Facile Vega’s 2nd run. I think my choice would be American Mike with an eachway bet on Redemption day. If Facile wins, so be it. I wasn’t visually as blown away by him as some clearly are and the fact that American Mike was 7 seconds faster than a 151 rated horse without touching him is something I am more impressed with. Unfortunately Redemption day doesn’t have a direct comparison on the day but he was faster carrying 5lb more weight at the same track two days later (with little encouragement)
    On the evidence so far, I’d say, to me anyway, Redemption looks better than Facile (but we haven’t seen anyone try to get to the bottom of him) but Mike looks class again.

    Selections: Mike with an eachway on Redemption Day

    *Sorry for the simplistic storytelling but it’s designed for my mates who don’t know racing that well

    I also did a spreadsheet of the times and form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PFc_ai9NBYAFQuSdKHJ6krmHIKxXW3EV/edit?usp=drivesdk&ouid=101743374518220495168&rtpof=true&sd=true

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    I’ll try James’ Gate and Madmansgame ew 4 places- by Shantou and Blue Bresil respectively and won their bumpers on heavy.

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    A token bet on Joyeux Machin.

    #1587768
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    Redemption day & seabank bistro at a big price e/w, loved the debut

    Will be laying vega and a few £ place laying him at 1.3ish, it looks a deep race to me

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    Facile Vega 22-1 ew

    #1587774
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    Redemption Day 11-2, and Ain’t No Sunshine 150-1 ew 4 places

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    The track is being inspected because of standing water.

    #1587780
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    Apparently something to do with where they have taken out the hurdles and the stakes they put in to hold them are filling with water – as Jane Mangan just said they run bumpers on heavy ground where it has rained all day without any issues so this seems rather silly….although may be a fallout from watering yesterday.

    #1587781
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    Chicane racing as the areas where the hurdles were are being dolled off

    #1587785
    Mike007
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    Get in!

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