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Two top speed figures over 100 is pretty solid claims for the bumper. Yet he is still 16s on betfair. i am chipping away.
Au Quart De tour, has not done as much and ts of lowly 21!!
I like Up for review ts of 109 and presenting offspring like better ground.
Bordini ts of 54 best in two runs. i would have wanted one to be better.
Like Moon racer he has to go close too.
General Principal quoted at 33s – may be worth an EW poke
Confirmed by Elliott as going to Cheltenham in todays Weekender.
33s gone now 20s.
Pylonthepressure
who ran at
Naas
yesterday only has to turn up at Cheltenham to win the Bumper, he earned a speed figure from me of
118
, Willie Mullins has another class act on his hands
Interesting TBB, he definitely stepped up on his debut form. What rating did you give General Principle, who won at Punchestown on Feb 1?
Thanks Mike…………but after that today, don’t think he’ll be heading to Cheltenham.
Another one bites the dust
Looked very slow today. Gigginstown have got some team of bumper horses this year. Wonder how many of them we’ll be discussing this time next year.
Hopefully the result of today’s bumper at Naas increases the chances of General Principle and Bellshill being on the boat.
Hopefully the result of today’s bumper at Naas increases the chances of General Principle and Bellshill being on the boat.
Yes, hopefully GE will have a nice form line through Tycoon for The General that cements his place in the field.
I like Hobb’s Wishful Dreaming travelled well last time winning by a neck New Years Day. I’d like to know what is happening to the horse that beat it in it’s previous run, one of Alan King’s doesn’t appear in the race on Oddschecker.
I like Hobb’s Wishful Dreaming travelled well last time winning by a neck New Years Day. I’d like to know what is happening to the horse that beat it in it’s previous run, one of Alan King’s doesn’t appear in the race on Oddschecker.
Just read Hobb’s stable tour in The Weekender, is on his holidays till next year. Reckons he’s to young a horse for a shot at anything this year which is probably right as The Bumper and Henderson has a view on this can stop inexperienced horses
I like Hobb’s Wishful Dreaming travelled well last time winning by a neck New Years Day. I’d like to know what is happening to the horse that beat it in it’s previous run, one of Alan King’s doesn’t appear in the race on Oddschecker.
I suspect most people have no idea as to who will end up heading the Irish Challenge. Most have been beating up small fields without coming under any pressure. It is guesswork as to what will happen when they face an entirely different challenge, particularly if (and it is becoming a bigger if) the ground dries up and it is guesswork at pretty ordinary prices.
I think Alan King provides the standout value on this side of the sea. It is mystifying that Yanworth is 33/1 but his Ascot conqueror Supasundae is around 12/1. McCoy failed to get the horse settled but he still managed to chase the winner all the way to the line. He pulled well clear of the third and that looks as good a form as we have to offer. A much faster pace and the stiffer track should see him to much better advantage and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the result is reversed. One thing is for certain he will not be 33/1 on the day.
Your views are right about the irish challenge but I’d say its an above average introduction of UK horses this year and there’s been some better bumpers.
I still recall Colin Tizzard saying in early February "if this horse was trained by Willie Mullins it’d be favourite" he was banging on about Cue Card and you know what happened next.
Hi, stevecaution here posting under my temporary default name sweetjebus.
I don’t get involved in the Bumper most years, largely due, I think, to a scenario a few years back when I walked up to the counter with ticket that read Florida Pearl £40 win, only to be stopped by one of my mates who had “information” that the Jim Old horse was “The business”
Fifteen minutes and one amended betting slip later, my mate was nursing a sore pair of plums and I was ruing an error that cost a tasty few quid.
This year I’ve cast an eye over a few and narrowed it down to three Pylonthepressure, Bordini and Moon Racer.
Pylonthepressure won a god awful affair first time before looking good next time out. I know The Blues Brother is bullish about his speed figure but for me the distance of 2m 3f doesn’t tie in with the usual type for the bumper. I am looking for a bit of class at the festival trip to show the pace I expect may be needed.
Bordini seems the favoured of the Mullins army of entries and is favourite at about 8/1 in most lists. I have checked out his races and he has won in higher company than most. I was struck that he’s not very big and has a low head carriage as he lobs along in front. He made slightly harder work before drawing away than I had expected from the way he had travelled in the race and I just wonder if something might outspeed him up the hill at Cheltenham. He seems solid enough though not physically impressive.
Moon Racer caused a boil over when winning at 50/1 on his debut. He was a cheap purchase at 5 grand and seemed largely unconsidered. He set off right at the back of the field that day, seemingly ridden with confidence, although sometimes with claimers you are not sure if it is confidence or inexperience that is at work. He started to make eye catching headway from the back as the race progressed and as they reached the business end of the race he was more or less level with the leaders. I thought for a moment that his run may peter out after making as much headway as he had but he responded to his jockey’s urgins to come away from his field in taking style, with little to indicate that the SP of 50/1 was a fluke in a race worth almost 60 grand.
Moon Racer’s win was a class apart from some of the awful pro-am bumpers where some of the runners are coming in beaten nearly 200 lengths and the style of his win caught a few eyes, as he went to the sales in Cheltenham and was bought for 225,000 to go to David Pipe, not a bad earner on the original 5000. He has since run at Cheltenham in October, where, for me, he seemed a good enough bet at 11/4 Fav, in a class 4 bumper and he won easily by 12 lengths.
The 2nd horse in the Fairyhouse bumper has been a little disappointing but the 3rd horse, who was favourite on the day, Turcagua, won at Navan in December and the 4th horse, Tycoon Prince, won 3 small field bumpers on the trot afterwards.
The only negative I can see is that Moon Racer hasn’t run since October but he had six months between his first and second races, so that shouldn’t really be a worry. If I were planning a gamble on the day, I’d probably have campaigned the horse similarly. For me he has potted a decent prize, won over the Course and Distance, is unexposed and faces a lot of horses who have promise, but in small affairs so far.
I can’t see how he’ll be bigger than the 6/1 Bordini is in places now on the day, and have backed him at 12/1, with no reason evident to me as to why he’s not favourite for this over the Mullins pocket warrior.
Moon Racer 12/1 Ladbrokes (Happy Easter)
Steve/David/Sweet, you might be interested to know that Sir Scorpion runs of a mark of 104 in the third race at Leopardstown tomorrow.
I haven’t been taken by the way Sir Scorpion has gone on from the race. He’s been pretty disappointing and at 14/1 makes no appeal to me.
There could always be a sting in the tail though (wink type icon thingy)
I love following these McManus horses that perform well in bumpers David, the usually run deplorably for a year or so and then hack in when you least expect it. First time in a handicap might be a bit obvious tomorrow but I’ve chanced a bit on him at 14’s. Have had success with these sorts over the past couple of seasons and would be no surprise to me should he win before the season is out.
I’m pretty unforgiving with horses Tommy. I won’t follow them hoping that one day they are actually going to be trying. I suppose he could be in with a shout off bottom weight but he’s not shown much signs of looking like winning one, although that could well be the “under the radar” strategy.
I was briefly interested in Blue Hell when I saw the Attheraces price guide showing him at 14/1 but quickly lost interest when I saw the non-fantasy price of 5/1 on Oddschecker. He had run a couple of decent thirds in races that threw up 18 future winners between them, before weakening into 5th after travelling promisingly in his first run since May last year and he looks feasibly handicapped in what is an easier looking contest than some he has run in.
I thought Princely Conn might go off favourite for the race based on his third to Nichols Canyon in The Royal Bond, where the ill fated Allez Colombiers broke down but it seems Blue Hell is quite strong in the betting with just one firm going 5/1 and only 7/2 on Betfair.
It’s a boring selection but the 5yo Blue Hell meets a lot of my requirements for the race and would have been a nailing each-way at the 14/1 ATR Mickey Mouse betting guide. Good luck with the Scorpion but I reckon he’s got a Hell of a task on his hands.
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