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- November 3, 2023 at 23:05 #1669070
Well done RTB
Smash up jobGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
November 3, 2023 at 23:06 #1669071Easy winner RTB.
Value Is EverythingNovember 3, 2023 at 23:09 #1669072Cheers

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November 3, 2023 at 23:10 #1669073Calling it amateur hour would be kind with regards to the scratchings of the European runners – they showed (I believe it was Jessie’s horse) being trotted up and down and I kid you not it was done on a sand based floor which then had a bunch of rubber mats placed on top of it with visable gaps between each mat and then the horse was asked to trot back and forth……..WTF.
Based on that the vets (a different bunch than those that had been with the horses in quarantine for the past 48 hrs and hadn’t reported any issue) told them that the horse had been scratched but couldn’t actually give an explanation as to what made them come to that decision.
The gaps in the placement of the mats meant that the horse could not move freely (like it could on an even surface, which my understanding is what you have to have when looking for potential issues when trotting a horse) and even the groom leading the horse was having to look down to see where they were stepping. Supposed to be a World Championship of Racing (don’t get me started on that particular issue) and yet we have this level of incompetence in not being able to administer a simple trotting exercise to determine soundness…..another reason why US racing by and large leaves me cold.
Jessie/Aidan were interviewed and were class in their response but must have been biting their tongues as to what they really wanted to say on the matter…….yes there is a ‘when in Rome’ aspect of racing in other juridictions but you expect a certain level of professional competence and this fell so far short of that…..well its almost laughable.
November 3, 2023 at 23:15 #1669074No one from the big owners/stables who have the resources to suffer these disappointments are going to make a stand and boycott it the rewards are too high.
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November 3, 2023 at 23:15 #1669075100% agree LD
If I were an owner whose horse was scratched due to that degree of incompetence, I’d look into whether I could sue them.It’s ok for Coolmore and O’Brien as they have plenty of other horses in these races, completely different for a small owner / trainer combo.
Value Is EverythingNovember 3, 2023 at 23:16 #1669076So to the last, Can Group and Carson’s Run.
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November 3, 2023 at 23:25 #1669078It’s ok for Aidan O’Brien to be magnanimous about the vets decision because ‘the lads’ don’t have to worry about spending a fortune to get the horses to America. Would be a disaster for a smaller trainer.By the way, did anyone see the coyote on the track in one of the earlier races?
November 3, 2023 at 23:28 #1669079I thought that was Dettori chasing the Bucks.
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November 3, 2023 at 23:46 #1669089Thought the boy wonder, Dylan was going to win there!
November 3, 2023 at 23:47 #1669091Another Moore masterclass – hopefully Dettori is taking notes for Inspiral.
November 3, 2023 at 23:52 #1669092Why’s Tabor acting like he’s Unquestionable’s owner?
Thought Al Shaqab Racing owned himGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
November 3, 2023 at 23:54 #1669093Agreed Nathan I did a double check.
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November 3, 2023 at 23:56 #1669094Best result on a rather mundane evening, Big Evs.
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November 3, 2023 at 23:56 #1669095Inspiral is usually held up when racing at a mile, LD.
Can’t really see them doing anything else with her when racing at 10f for the first time.
Although there does seem a bit of a pace bias for prominent runners.Value Is EverythingNovember 3, 2023 at 23:58 #1669096“Rather mundane evening” RTB?
You had an easy 16/1 winner didn’t you?
Value Is EverythingNovember 4, 2023 at 00:42 #1669102Coolmore also listed as owners of Unquestionable Nathan, albeit he runs in Al Shaqab colours. Mind you Tabor didn’t even know that his Mountain Bear had finished 2nd.
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