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  • #1472330
    Frenchy15
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    Ah the flat season is about over :cry: . One more meeting for me and then I’m done until March. Always love the Breeders Cup, the novelty of it being on a Saturday night is much fun!

    The obvious one of course is Magical here after her 4th Group 1 last weekend, but 9/4 now best priced and I’m not sure that’s much value seeing as though she has to travel over. She is gutsy and she never seems to stop, but it still might all catch up with her at some point. Having looked a few times back at the Fillies & Mares at Ascot on Saturday, I’m convinced Fleeting was the best horse in the race. Donnacha was also mighty p*ssed when he came in after, suggesting he thought so too. Would no doubt have gone very close with a clear run and I think would’ve won.

    Winning that race, would have given Fleeting more than enough form to be up to winning this one and the price at the moment is a lot of value I think.

    AOB confirmed today that Fleeing and Magical will be entered and it’s the plan for both.

    Fleeting 10/1 EW

    #1472342
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    I don’t know much about the previous race Fleeting ran in over in America, but on a line through that she’d need to have progressed to get near Sistercharlie? Over 1m2, i think they’d need to make more use of her, and i’m not sure if that’s suited to her? Decent price though on a line through Star Catcher. I suppose it depends whether you think Fleeting is unlucky in a lot of her races, or always just finding too late.

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    #1472343
    FinalFurlong91
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    I think sistercharlie will be hard to beat

    I’m holding off on any bets until the draw comes out, after backing rhododendron, September and anthony van dyck ante post in recent years just for all of them to get terrible draws

    #1472344
    FinalFurlong91
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    Previous race in America fleeting lacked the tactical speed to stay with them, pushed along way from home but as usual flew home late

    Think 1m4f is the shortest trip she should be running over

    Link to the race, sistercharlie won with any amount in hand, fleeting got taken off her feet then ran on

    #1472377
    Frenchy15
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    I think Fleeting could still be improving slightly. Would possibly have been a career best on Saturday with a clear run. I have not been a follower of her this season, I can imagine people that have been are beyond frustrated, but the fact is she has been checked in her run a few times. It is an odds thing for me, I think there’s value EW at 10/1. I’m happy to take on SisterCharlie as the Fav is 1 from 9 in this.

    The last winner at Santa Anita was drawn 11, so it can be done, but the previous 4 were drawn no lower than 6 so it is a factor. I have to say I thought it was run over further than 10F, now I realise they change the distance depending on where the meeting is held. Doh, should’ve checked that :wacko: 10F on firm and I think she might struggle actually yeah, so hoping it doesn’t come up too quick.

    Magical could still be my main bet here, but I will wait until nearer the time

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    I would say they are! She did look a hardluck story on Saturday but the truth is she was beaten by Star Catcher for the 4th time + pretty much all of the times she’s looked “eye-catching”? The way she tends to be ridden does leave her open to instances such as Saturday + it would be a bit of a worry Stateside. Maybe over 1m2 they are going to try and race her closer to the pace?

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    #1472391
    FinalFurlong91
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    Dont think she has the gate speed or tactical pace to be ridden closer to the pace over 10f in America

    And if I remember correctly she was ridden a bit closer to race in one of the races in france and ran her worst race of the season

    Think it was the prix vermeille

    #1472496
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    Thought it might be an idea for a thread to cover the whole meeting. It’s been done before, and worked well, especially as a lot of the races get overlooked.

    Not long now, and plenty of potential crackers as well, and plenty of prices up…….

    https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/breeders-cup

    Not quite familiar territory for me, but I do quite like the idea of A’Ali in The Juvenile Turf Sprint, while in The Fillies and Mares Turf, if I thought she was going then Billesdon Brook is the one I would play Antepost at 12’s.

    I don’t catch American Racing too often, but I did catch the last run, and win, of Math Wizard, and I’d be interested in him for The Classic.

    In The Distaff, Midnight Bisou is very short, but I’ll certainly be with her on the day if she was any kind of price, but that seems unlikely just now.

    #1472719
    Kez1111
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    This is one of the few meetings I really look forward to VtC, and put plenty of time into finding bets. I watch American racing all year round and love their Grade 1 races, as much as it can sometimes be a sham watching jockeys just drop the reins on a horse in the straight.

    The juvenile turf sprint looks exciting this year and Four Wheel Drive and Kimari both look strong.

    I havent seen too many of the Juvenile Fillies but Bast is a real tough horse and did well to win last time, I prefer British Idiom though as she cleared away impressively last time when I backed the possible reopposing Perfect Alibi.

    Eight Rings is already being touted as next years Kentucky Derby winner and he’s a favourite I like for the Juvenile, Maxfield is interesting on his win last time.

    Structor in the Juvenile Turf is the one that interests me, I believe he’s still undefeated and he just held on last time but I like him as opposed to Arizona, who could of had a tough race on soft ground last time in defeat to Pinatubo and has had a long enough season.

    Sistercharlie is the obvious one in the Filly&Mare turf, I just love this horse from her France days, and Chad Brown is excellent with these kind of races

    I cant find anything stand out in the turf sprint this year, I’ll take a flyer on Belvoir Bay each way

    Omaha Beach in the dirt mile is the one to beat, he was oh so impressive coming back from a lay off when beating Shancelot last time, and while Shancelot is now a slight unknown after 2 defeats following his huge win earlier in the year, Omaha Beach was once favourite for the Kentucky Derby so must be a well regarded horse

    I’m still willing to trust the aforementioned Shancelot in the Sprint, he was unlucky not to hold on 2 races ago when trying to go gate to wire and last time I think he ran into one in Omaha Beach who wont be re-opposing here, Imperial Hint and Mitole are dangerous if they turn up but I think Imperial Hint has had his day and Mitole may not be able to rope in Shancelot, its all on if he can hold out late.

    Midnight Bisou is my pick for the Distaff, an impeccable year so far and I cant see much troubling her, Serengeti Empress may be of interest e/w

    Code Of Honor hacks up in the Classic. McKinzie is a silly price surely, poor last time and I dont think he wants this distance. I wish Maximum Security was running as I think he’s the stand out and I really like him.

    #1472728
    FinalFurlong91
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    A’Ali jumped out to me too

    Frankie is riding from what iv heard and hed have had the option of riding the wesley ward horses by the sounds of it

    #1472788
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    Good stuff Kez.

    I’ll no be going mad, as I don’t really follow it too much, but I do try and watch from time to time.

    I just enjoy these nights, and try to cram nearer the time, but I’ll be giving most Races a try.

    #1473042
    FinalFurlong91
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    Do we know when the final decs and draw will be out for fridays racing

    Cant remember how they operate in the USA

    #1473058
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    #1473089
    Red Rum 77
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    Santa Anita in California so might be a poor result for European horses.

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    #1473100
    FinalFurlong91
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    Uni for chad brown, my bet for the breeders cup mile if declared and bricks and mortar goes elsewhere

    That is a serious turn of foot

    #1473101
    Kez1111
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    I’m with you on that one FF, she showed similar 2 starts ago when I believe Got Stormy beat her, but Uni met alot of traffic that day and again showed that electric turn of foot late to place.

    Arizona drew post 12 in the Juvenile sprint.

    #1473102
    FinalFurlong91
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    Same old same old

    The fancied European horses getting bad draws hahaha

    A’Ali 10 of 12 Arizona 12 of 14

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