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Personally, I think he was flattered by the run last week and would have left him at 159. There are plenty of formlines available via tomorrow’s race that the handicapper could then have used to re-assess his mark if he thought it necessary. I do not think he is capable of winning off a mark of 159 let alone 168 in a handicap.
Grandouet beat him by 5.5 lengths in the Triumph and by 4 lengths last week, both at level weights. He is clearly the inferior horse in the formbook, by how much is open to question but 7lbs does not seem excessive.
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I agree EF, he was flattered, and to some tune, though there’s little future in explaining why to someone who only asks to seek argument.
He didn’t have the cheekpieces fitted when he went down to the start as declared (I think that was the piece of tack). They fitted them at the start but it was deemed he wasn’t allowed to run. Perhaps Mr Nicholls has found a new ruse to make a mockery of Grade 3 handicaps.
Think about it – how stupid is this rule ?
" Sorry , Cech, but you left the changing room with your gloves on and took them off during the warm-up. You’re off "
If it gets the horse to the start but he runs in the specified aids – who cares ?!! This falls under the same " Get Rid To Improve Racing " banner as horses planting themselves at the start but being declared under horses.
Racing – love it but it’s so full of ****
I agree EF, he was flattered, and to some tune, though there’s little future in explaining why to someone who only asks to seek
argument
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I seek "discussion" Reet, not "arguement".
It’s what this great forum is all about.
Anyone can say "I think the handicapper is an idiot", without explaining the alternative.Value Is EverythingSo has HT, but then they both have to as it could be ‘well in’ and double figures, which won’t hurt other prices.
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Taken 25/1 Brampour for the Champion.
Good luck with that Ginge! (Seriously)
Aye, I think he’ll need it.
Brampour ran too poorly to say his rating was wrong, but I’d be fairly certain he’s well overrated, and it would be no surprise to see Prospect Wells (Rated 26lb inferior this a.m.) usurp him in the market, eventually.Abergavenny, Via Galilei and Sailors Warn were all weighted to finish in front of Brampour on their respective earlier encounters, which they did.
I think Brampour may not have been suited by the going but raising him 10lbs for the Greatwood win was over the top and last week’s hike just added insult to injury.Taken 25/1 Brampour for the Champion.
Good luck with that Ginge! (Seriously)
Aye, I think he’ll need it.
Brampour ran too poorly to say his rating was wrong, but I’d be fairly certain he’s well overrated, and it would be no surprise to see Prospect Wells (Rated 26lb inferior this a.m.) usurp him in the market, eventually.
Prospect Wells is a novice Reet.
Brampour and Prospect Wells will be in different races come Cheltenham.I have NOT backed Brampour because I think he will win. I’ve backed him because I think he has a better than 4% chance of winning. So yes, I will need luck.
Value Is EverythingI have NOT backed Brampour because I think he will win. I’ve backed him because I think he has a better than 4% chance of winning. So yes, I will need luck.
Luck Ginge,you’ll need more than luck for him to even run in the race,there’s more chance of
Razeen
winning Poster of the year and he never turned up for the race either!
Bampour is living proof early season form isn’t worth a bucket of manure.
Every year it’s the same some horse wins an early handicap, Graded race or top Juvenile hurdle and the next thing he’s going to win the Supreme, the Champion Hurdle or the Triumph. Most of them never see Cheltenham and would be tailed off if they did.
Occasionally a real good one pops up and goes on to win a big race at the Festival but there’s very few.
I fully expect 2-3lbs to be coming off that 168 of Brampour’s as of the next published ratings.
I’m awaiting with interest whether Five Dream cops another 3lbs on top of an expected rise for his Long Walk run. "You’re going up another 11 or 12….. oh wait, plus add on another 3 for using a jockey who claims in open company again, Mr Nicholls."
Taken 25/1 Brampour for the Champion.
Good luck with that Ginge! (Seriously)
Aye, I think he’ll need it.
Brampour ran too poorly to say his rating was wrong, but I’d be fairly certain he’s well overrated, and it would be no surprise to see Prospect Wells (Rated 26lb inferior this a.m.) usurp him in the market, eventually.Need it? for one he won’t even make it into the Champion Hurdle and secondly if he does he’ll be tailed off by the 3rd last.
It is the Champion Hurdle at Cheltenham we’re talking about here ?or is there another one at Sedgefield or Catterick?
A classic example of backing a price and not a horse.
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Prospect Wells is a novice Reet.
Brampour and Prospect Wells will be in different races come Cheltenham.I have NOT backed Brampour because I think he will win. I’ve backed him because I think he has a better than 4% chance of winning. So yes, I will need luck.
Prospect Wells is a ‘novice’ rising 7, and as entries aren’t made until mid-January, there’s every chance he’ll be in the CH field.
Your "4% chance", strangely, takes no account of overrounds.
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