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  • #389062
    Avatar photoJAMIEDB9007
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    Aah I see…..thanks for enlightening me….
    Have backed Soldatino myself, so thanks for the reassurance.

    #389071
    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    If Zarkandar does turn up for this, with 11.1 the only danger would be soft ground imo, even that might not stop him hacking up.

    #389082
    Avatar photoHurdygurdyman
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    Sorry very presumptive of me thinking everyone knows the meaning of greened up.

    Example:

    .Back 24 100 2400
    Lay 14 171.4285714 2400

    Guaranteed profit 71.42p

    To green up if you have 100 @24 multiply 100*24 = 2400

    If the horse drops to 14 you divide 2000 by 14 = 171.28 and if you lay the horse at that price for that amount. Your profit win or lose is the difference between your stake and the mount you just laid.

    In this case 171.42 less 100 = 71.72 profit.

    I had asked how the horse was but he hadn’t saw him work but heard Nicky wasn’t happy with the way thing were going for the Betfair.

    I had half decided already to take the money and run but that just finalised it for me. It’s not a lot of profit but enough to cover other bets with the bookies I can’t green up on should he lose

    Turns out 2 days later it’s Darlan that was the problem as you probably saw in yesterdays Racing Post and nothing to do with the fitness of either horse.

    I’m happy with my lot so G/l if you have backed him

    #389140
    Avatar photoJAMIEDB9007
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    I know what greened up meant, it was a tad misleading in saying you didn’t like the vibes you were getting about Soldatino but had backed him anyway.
    It’s all good so no worries.
    Cheers

    #389141
    Anonymous
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    Zarkandar for me.

    #389194
    TomBarkley87
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    Zarkandar for me.

    Think it has to be. I’m sure Nicholls will have him extra tuned up for this after seeing The Fly on Sunday – he’ll want to make an impression too.

    #389215
    Avatar photoHurdygurdyman
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    Alarasi could run well

    #389297
    Avatar photoMarkTT
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    If Henderson doesn’t run Darlan at Taunton and puts it in here off 137, then has one of the Linehan’s or McGrath on it’s back, he’s laughing. He is now ( with some justification ) moaning about the handicapper but the horse has bolted.

    Zarkandar should win, but Sire De Grugy will be my e/way bet if it’s softish. Think the Racing Post analysis of his race at Chepstow is a little odd.

    #389305
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    Mark: Did you watch SDG last race? Even taking into account the ground, OMG that was desparate, did not jump fluently and gave way very easily indeed, i know the trainer is a fixer too BUT even so that will need to improve bundles to have a place chance let alone win mate :shock:

    #389377
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    Mark: Did you watch SDG last race? Even taking into account the ground, OMG that was desparate, did not jump fluently and gave way very easily indeed, i know the trainer is a fixer too BUT even so that will need to improve bundles to have a place chance let alone win mate :shock:

    I think it’s last race was a very canny ride and training performance :wink:
    It smashed Empire Levant last season.

    Market for this is a joke, as are all AP markets these days

    #389401
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    Judging from the write-ups of Citizenship’s last race, everyone who watched his progress was just ‘blown away’. He only went up 5lbs for that last win, and he’s still 4lbs out of the handicap in the BF, but that looks piffling.

    Big field, big prize-money, nearly fell at the first, came right from the back of a big field and showed astonishing finishing speed to win. I’d already done 4, but have had to include him.

    And if memory serves, he’s short with Ladbrokes. BUT… will he run? I see he’s also short for the County Hurdle.

    #389485
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    Judging from the write-ups of Citizenship’s last race, everyone who watched his progress was just ‘blown away’. He only went up 5lbs for that last win, and he’s still 4lbs out of the handicap in the BF, but that looks piffling.

    Big field, big prize-money, nearly fell at the first, came right from the back of a big field and showed astonishing finishing speed to win. I’d already done 4, but have had to include him.

    And if memory serves, he’s short with Ladbrokes. BUT… will he run? I see he’s also short for the County Hurdle.

    I backed him in Ireland because you could say similar things about his previous run. My other horse in the race was Make A Track, who finished 5th.

    I’d put that run on about 130, with more improvement to come, but think they’ll keep him for Cheltenham as he’s probably got one more big race in him before the handicapper throttles him.

    #389711
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    As things stand if Zarkandar is a Champion Hurdle horse he should win this with ease of his current mark and then head to Cheltnenham.

    However what if Soldatino who has also won a Triumph Hurdle wins it easily where do you think he will go next?

    He is apparently strongly fancied and you’d have to think if Zarkandar is/was going for the Champion Hurdle and Soldatino stuffed him that Simon Munir the owner of Grandouet would want a second bow to his string and supplement Soldatino for the race.

    Champion Hurdle betting

    Zarkandar 7/1

    Soldatino 1000/1

    56 quid has been matched over the last few days some is my own some from a bit closer to home. 8 quid left. He may not win the Betfair or be supplemented but if he did and was 8)

    #389761
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    As things stand if Zarkandar is a Champion Hurdle horse he should win this with ease of his current mark and then head to Cheltnenham.

    However what if Soldatino who has also won a Triumph Hurdle wins it easily where do you think he will go next?

    He is apparently strongly fancied and you’d have to think if Zarkandar is/was going for the Champion Hurdle and Soldatino stuffed him that Simon Munir the owner of Grandouet would want a second bow to his string and supplement Soldatino for the race.

    Champion Hurdle betting

    Zarkandar 7/1

    Soldatino 1000/1

    56 quid has been matched over the last few days some is my own some from a bit closer to home. 8 quid left. He may not win the Betfair or be supplemented but if he did and was 8)

    Soldatino isn’t close to Champion Hurdle class. Struggle to see any reasoning to think he’d any chance.

    #389890
    TomBarkley87
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    56 quid has been matched over the last few days some is my own some from a bit closer to home. 8 quid left. He may not win the Betfair or be supplemented but if he did and was <!– s8) –>8)<!– s8) –>

    Can he really beat Zarkandar though, getting only 3 pounds off him? We’ve already seen the form of last years Triumph. I think Zarkandar is nailed on for this.

    #389895
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    As things stand if Zarkandar is a Champion Hurdle horse he should win this with ease of his current mark and then head to Cheltnenham.

    However what if Soldatino who has also won a Triumph Hurdle wins it easily where do you think he will go next?

    He is apparently strongly fancied and you’d have to think if Zarkandar is/was going for the Champion Hurdle and Soldatino stuffed him that Simon Munir the owner of Grandouet would want a second bow to his string and supplement Soldatino for the race.

    Champion Hurdle betting

    Zarkandar 7/1

    Soldatino 1000/1

    56 quid has been matched over the last few days some is my own some from a bit closer to home. 8 quid left. He may not win the Betfair or be supplemented but if he did and was 8)

    Soldatino isn’t close to Champion Hurdle class. Struggle to see any reasoning to think he’d any chance.

    If he beats Zarkandar 10 lengths I still wouldn’t fancy him for the Champion Hurdle all I want him to do is run in the race if he wins the Betfair then lay him off. 72 quid was matched at 1000 and he’s gone from 1000 to 170 so more than a few people have had 2 or 3 quid on in the hope it might happen. I think they call it gambling :)

    #389897
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    If Zarkander is A1 he’ll take some beating. But breathing problems and the fact Nicholls says there’ll be something to work on – means I’ll have to pass on him at current prices.

    Anyone know if Olofi is a certain runner?
    Going like a winner when fell 2 out last time out over course and distance. Don’t like backing last time out fallers, but 14/1 looks tempting.

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