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  • #366294
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    You asked what is left for Coolmore?

    For sure they’ve got some of the best stallions Andyod. Gallileo is a "Great" stallion, but was not a "great" racehorse. Am sure, even if stallions are the first priority. It must be an ambition.

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    #366298
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    From memory the only time he was defeated in Europe was when Godolfin ganged up on him in the Irish Champion Stakes.He ran seven times and was never defeated apart from that in Europe.He never ducked a race.He was a great racehorse maybe not another Sea The stars or Frankel so how great is great?But that is beside the point.He is a "great" sire.

    #366299
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    Could you tell me what horses they actually breed because most of there horses are brought::

    Cape blanco (£330,000)
    Treasure Beach (180,000gns)
    Fame And Glory (190,000gns)
    St Nicholas Abbey (200,000gns)
    Recital (£750,000)

    So on so on ….

    Am i missing something here because nearly all of there horses are

    not

    bread by coolmore according to the RP

    #366320
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    Basically every horse that has Lynch Bages or any Lynch bloodstock, Premier Bloodstock, Barronstown Stud(David Nagle Private Stud),Orpendale, Chelston & Wynatt and Denis Brosnan’s private stud(forget the name). Everything else is purchased privately. Then everything else that does not enter the sales ring is part owned by Coolmore thru buying various foal shares in hundreds of horse’s etc etc etc.

    #366384
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    Simply put any horse with a Coolmore tag on the sire is bred there.That is the operation I am referring to.I am not referring to any mare owned by Coolmore who goes outside Coolmore to another stud farm.I am also not referring to any foal dropped at the Coolmore operation while waiting for services at Coolmore.

    #19564
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    "He’s round and he’s ready," Aidan O’Brien said after So You Think’s victory in the Irish Champion Stakes at Leopardstown on Saturday evening.
    What did Aidan mean?Normally a trainer refers to fitness as straight not round so what did he mean by "He’s round"?

    #370240
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    "

    Round

    " as in carrying condition… just starting back up again…
    (Cumani once said that of one of his after he ran in the Foy – claimed he had been on the pasta and in need of it!) :lol:
    That fella ‘Alkaased’ then went on to set a record time in the Japan cup! :shock:

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    Ready

    " to go on from there – expect improvement even if he does step up in trip…

    He made a point of saying that, " the lads said that today ‘Snow Fairy’

    was back at her ideal racing weight for the first time this year

    "…
    just a little something (not that it matters does it?) that us punters weren’t made aware of beforehand!

    What would have been handy to know, had Aiden have said, was that SYT was actually say

    30lbs say over his ideal

    think back to the POW – and then onto the Eclipse – wouldn’t those digits from the scales tell us a whole lot more – and take away debate over whether or not he was telling the truth? :idea:

    #370247
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    AOB full of his usual disgusting quotes of nothingness.

    He want to get moving with his 2yr old’s or Magnier have to spend another 20 odd Million to find a flag bearer for Ballydoyle next season.

    #370254
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    I found it quite enlightening Ruby! :lol:
    Well the bit about ‘Snow Fairy’ anyways… :D
    Wonder if we will know

    the real

    target for SYT before Sunday evening?!! :o

    #370255
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    Hmm….

    I suspect they don’t know themselves. I would think the 10f race at Ascot is well odds on for his next start.

    Pity he be beating the same horses or even worse horses again.

    #370296
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    "

    Round

    " if taken in conjunction with his other comments (about how well he now settles) – is sending out a warning – that he is now complete! :shock:
    The real deal, a marvel of perfection… & "ready" to take on the world!

    #370335
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    "Rubyisgodinthesaddle" wrote: Hmm….

    I suspect they don’t know themselves. I would think the 10f race at Ascot is well odds on for his next start.

    Pity he be beating the same horses or even worse horses again.

    I hope he goes for the Arc because it would be a much tougher assignment, yet he wouldn’t have it all his own way in the Champion Stakes either. Cirrus Des Aigles would make sure of that :wink:

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    CHAMPION OPTION FOR NATHANIEL

    – From SportingLife

    John Gosden’s Nathaniel could end his season in the QIPCO Champion Stakes at Ascot on Saturday October 15.

    Unraced since his impressive victory in the King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes at Ascot in July, Nathaniel’s next assignment is this year’s Arc on Sunday 2 October.

    A trip to Ascot for the inaugural QIPCO British Champions Day, when Frankel will be in action in the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes, could then be on the cards for the colt who is rated 128 by the British handicappers.

    "He’s not having a race prior to the Arc to give us the option to go for the QIPCO Champion Stakes as well," explained Gosden on Wednesday.

    "Thirteen days between races is very tight and we’ll have to assess how he is after Longchamp, but if you go into the Arc fresh, then you give yourself the chance to run in the Champion as well."

    Already on course for the Champion Stakes are the Sir Henry Cecil-trained duo of Twice Over and Midday, first and second in last month’s Juddmonte International Stakes at York.

    Twice Over is chasing a remarkable Champion Stakes hat-trick, having won the last two runnings at the race’s previous home, Newmarket.

    Also targeting the Champion is the in-form and improving French-trained five-year-old, Cirrus Des Aigles.

    Having given Goldikova a fright in the Prix D’Ispahan over nine furlongs at Longchamp in May, the Corine Barande-Barbe-trained gelding has demolished his rivals in two recent races at Deauville, winning those Group 2 and Group 3 contests by an aggregate of 18 lengths.

    "All is going very well for Cirrus des Aigles," said Barande-Barbe.

    "As usual after a race he has been walking in the forest at Chantilly and he’s now started cantering again. The horse seems so happy. He recovered quickly after the Grand Prix de Deauville as he didn’t have much to do.

    "The plan now is to win another Prix Dollar (at Longchamp on 1 October) and then the Champion Stakes at Ascot.

    "He goes on all ground but maybe soft is better as other horses don’t always act on it.

    "A right handed track is perfect as is any distance from 2,000 (1m 2f) to 2,500 (1m 4 1/2f) metres. What we would like is a true pace, but he can make his own running if necessary.

    "My only other runner in England has been at Ascot. In 1999, I saddled Perfect Vintage in the Queen Anne Stakes and he ran fifth to Cape Cross."

    #370693
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    Ed Dunlop said a few times that Snow Fairy would be at her peak leading up to the race, and after losing to Midday both he and Frankie mentioned that she’d come on for the run.

    #19614
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    The Ballydoyle older horses seem to be all running like they were not well, they shut down when the serious racing starts and they are asked for an effort.The tyos are doing fine.

    #370758
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    Are they in different yards/areas (the 2-y-o’s and older horses)?

    #370763
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    Can’t say for sure but someone on this site maybe a year ago said they were kept apart.

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