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  • #1727577
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    And Olly Bell on ITV criticised him for just that, but was screamed down by Meghan Nichols and Adele Mulrennan who are obviously firmly in the jockey inviolability camp it is sickening!
    One of them actually said that Old Harrovian wasn’t quickening ‘he was lengthening’ (whatever that was supposed to mean?) as the horse sprinted to make up the dozen lengths or so gap that the plainly over-confident Murphy had allowed to develop.

    #1727581
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    It is a joke, isn’t it?

    OK, the horse does need holding up and maybe he is on the quirky side. He had to switch slightly but Murphy was never blocked in his run and made up ground hand over fist in the last furlong.

    He gave the horse far too much to do. That is obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes in their head.

    I suspect Nicholls and Mulrennan know that but they just cannot bring themselves to criticise golden boy Oisin.

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    The biggest nonsense was when one of the girls said “If Oisin could ride the race again he wouldn’t do anything different” lol.
    Oisin will be kicking himself about the ride. Even Mick Fitz knows if you get beat on one that should have won, you’d like another go.
    Shame Oli buckled under the pressure.

    #1727603
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    Credit to Murphy for explaining what happened but he openly admits the horse should have won.

    Perhaps Nicholls and Mulrennan might like to apologise? And Bell needs to grow a backbone.

    https://x.com/oismurphy/status/1913267911898136672

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    Bell was right. Murphy could and should have made more effort 2 furlongs out. He got going far too late.

    Nicholls (notice how she is on cosy, first name terms with “Oisin”) is completely wrong. She seemed to have a rather lofty disregard for the punters who Bell was saying would be unhappy with the ride.

    It is a hold up horse. Murphy overdid the hold up tactics. It does happen, so maybe it is not an utterly atrocious ride. But he has got beaten on one he should have by his own admission won on, so it has to be filed under “bad ride”.

    Bell should have stood his ground. Nicholls and Mulrennan would have respected him more if he had.

    https://x.com/itvracing/status/1913252511579861311

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    Yes, credit to Murphy for his explanation of the ride.

    “The biggest nonsense was when one of the girls said “If Oisin could ride the race again he wouldn’t do anything different” “

    a) they have no idea if he would do anything different

    b) credit to Oli Bell for speaking up, need more of that from the media. The failure to address or even discuss anything that a jockey or trainer gets wrong is tiresome.

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    They have just shown it on ITV I think Oli should have been smug and said told you so.

    The more I know the less I understand.

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    I don’t have a problem with Murphy. He is still a top jockey. He made a mistake as everyone is entitled to do and at least he was upfront about it.

    But there is no excuse for the rubbish Mulrennan and Nicholls talked. They may not have meant to insult the intelligence of punters but they did. They also reinforced the idea of racing being a nice, cosy club – and punters aren’t in it.

    Betting on horse racing is in decline. I am not suggesting yesterday’s race and the analysis afterwards is the reason but these pundits need to realise that punters have lots of other betting options nowadays. They might decide racing isn’t worth bothering with if a 6/4 favourite is given a poor ride and two high profile pundits then defend it.

    Bell doesn’t deserve much credit because he didn’t stand his ground.

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    Harry Skelton on Got Grey 2:05 at Haydock. Should’ve won it!

    #1727681
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    And Skelton’s ride on Land Genie in the next was a masterpiece of how to confuse a horse – holding it up until the next tight bend then rousting it up 4 wide every time there was another bend! He seemed to be changing his mind every 30 seconds!

    #1727746
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    Marc Goldstein just now on Mr Freedom.
    Totally over complicating things and made a complete meal of it in the end.

    I just hope the poor horse is ok, he’s a favourite of mine.

    Between Goldstein and Robbie Dunne, I’ve watched Mr Freedom being given so many subpar rides this past few years.

    #1727748
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    Sady RP results show Mr Freedom as fatally injured.

    #1727760
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    That’s heartbreaking.

    One of the most honest and likeable horses in the sport.

    #1727762
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    GM23 – check the memorial thread, there seems some confusion and he may be ok, keeping everything crossed for him.

    #1727763
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    But his owners posted a video of him walking back to the stables 35 mins ago. Looked very sore and sorry for himself but definitely alive. Hopefully the RP have got it wrong.

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    Holt mentioned him as “down at the last”, though he didn’t really fall. Hoping for the best.

    #1729866
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    Ryan Moore on fav The Pouncing Lion at Chester. Looked to be over complicating things unnecessarily throughout. Just unconvincing.

    And some think he never rides a poor race!

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