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well would have to agree and disagree………..he went out on a high as he won some great races to some to some great horses with at times carrying great weights….he didunt go out on a low loser note he went out almost an abused horse, imean u wouldent use a tired not happy athlete in a rematch when they should be resting would you???????????????but yes thanx i hope with posativness that az has a long happy and healthy retiremeant………
well he was only beaten by 4lenghs by one of the best 2milers around to this date………with a slice 15% SLICE OUT OF HIS TENDON…….so that wasent a bad run was it,:angry:
I think what people are saying is that he should never have run in the first place; that the tendon injury arose because of what happened at Cheltenham a month earlier.
These people are all racing fans: to have one of the stars of National Hunt racing retired so young through an injury they see as avoidable is not going to sit well.
‘Going out on a high’ would have been, say, beating Moscow Flyer and Well Chief one last time. Or taking on the young guns Voy Por Ustedes and Newmill and putting them in their place. Not gallantly fighting an injury that should never have had the chance to happen.
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ohyea i agree with you both ts and fri, i totally agree and so does 1part of ownership he shouldNEVER EVER ran at sandown, but with a trainer that can talk the talk these things happen, but unfortunatly the inocent victim drew the short straw, and when i say he went out a star its more a sense of being a high point with his racing b4 he got hurt rather than being useless and then hurt.;)
yes i agree the pics come through of az n mosc y,day so i actualywork for owners of az but will find out bout that horse for you, do az every day hes an angel…..all there other horses are a nichols yard…….:o
Quote: from clivex on 6:31 pm on Mar. 19, 2007[br]No
Much as i admire Nichols, this was his worst moment. And perhaps even Pipes
They became ridiculously obsessed with winning a "championship" the value of which is overstaed IMO
Im sure that Nichols has (and i think Pipe too) admitted that this poor stuff<br>
<br>Strongly agree, it all got a bit tasteless. I was at the Perth Festival in the last week of that season – there, as elsewhere around the country that week, both men were asking far too much of the same horses in rapid-fire succession.
It was only, for example, the complete paucity of opposition that allowed Commercial Flyer to land a poor 3 1/2m conditionals’ hurdle on the last day at Perth without the inevitable tiredness of a hectic schedule (fourth run in nine days, including one the previous day) getting punished. That the same horse was then run at the opposite end of the country in a Sandown 0-140 (well-held fifth) THE FOLLOWING DAY was just crackers. It is noted that this horse has completed only one of six subsequent runs and it’s a wonder he hasn’t soured completely.
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Quote: from graysonscolumn on 2:00 pm on Mar. 22, 2007<br>It was only, for example, the complete paucity of opposition that allowed Commercial Flyer to land a poor 3 1/2m conditionals’ hurdle on the last day at Perth without the inevitable tiredness of a hectic schedule (fourth run in nine days, including one the previous day) getting punished. That the same horse was then run at the opposite end of the country in a Sandown 0-140 (well-held fifth) THE FOLLOWING DAY was just crackers. It is noted that this horse has completed only one of six subsequent runs and it’s a wonder he hasn’t soured completely.
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I have to take issue with this statement. In terms of form Commercial Flyer put up easily his best effort over hurdles at Sandown that day. It was the extra 21 lb in the saddle that prevented him winning that day rather than the aggressive campaigning. I also think it is stretching the truth to suggest that a horse beaten six and a half lengths has finished a ‘well-held sixth’
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But 5 run in 10 days is surely excessive?
surely in this stage of decade and all the rest new stuff if it ever gets head to head rivalary for champion trainer something should be done before hand nxt time to avoid ruining, injuring even resulting in death of horses…………………
i must say it was very odd how the rivalry took hold that year between pipe and nicholls. i can remember there was a race where all the runners where trained by the two trainers.<br>running horses many times in a short time probably doesnt do them any harm in the short term, but i think its pretty obvious they dont ever come back to the same standard. examples of this are locksmith, commercial flyer, marcel <br>Martin pipe seemed to be the ‘worst’ culprit for this but im sure it happens else where. To a certain extent nicholls did it last year with darias and ho la baloo
There is no evidence to suggest so in this case in my opinion.
I think subsequent form of 1-PU-PU-F-PU-PU might suggest horse there might be a little evidence to suggest it…
Of those non-completions, only the Aintree run and the effort at this year’s Cheltenham Festival are difficult to explain. Of the rest, the horse ripped a shoe off and lost his action in last year’s Sun Alliance, was travelling as well as anything in Fork Lightning’s race at the Cheltenham meeting in December and was set a very stiff task in the King George.
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