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I was aware some bookies did that Rory, is it the same for all of them?
Value Is EverythingI was aware some bookies did that Rory, is it the same for all of them?
They have to – Tattersalls rules.
I notice sportingbet ante post bets are void even if the race is at Kempton the next day. However, I believe all the other layers will not void them for a one day delay at the same venue.
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Barney Curley’s favourite bookie NOT.
Aren’t they governed by Tatersall’s rules?
I know All bets will be void on matches that are postponed, rearranged or moved to a different venue.But Racing?
Any chance it will be put off to such a time Imperial Commander might give me a run for my ante-post money?
Come on Snow!
Wasn’t he taken out at the previous forfeit stage? Anyway, he’s definitely out at the final decs so doesn’t matter what they do that bet’s gone.
At what point would they have to reopen the race if it’s restaged?
Any chance it will be put off to such a time Imperial Commander might give me a run for my ante-post money?
Come on Snow!
Wasn’t he taken out at the previous forfeit stage? Anyway, he’s definitely out at the final decs so doesn’t matter what they do that bet’s gone.
At what point would they have to reopen the race if it’s restaged?
I am not 100% on this Roseblossom. But I don’t think it makes any difference. To be able to lose a bet, there has to be a winner. In this case, there won’t be a winner of the Kempton race, if they VOID the race. Therefore, bookmakers can not keep my money. No chance of winning = No bet. I think.
Value Is EverythingI am not 100% on this Roseblossom. But I don’t think it makes any difference. To be able to lose a bet, there has to be a winner. In this case, there won’t be a winner of the Kempton race, if they VOID the race. Therefore, bookmakers can not keep my money. No chance of winning = No bet. I think.
But your horse wasn’t declared at the final dec stage – I can understand them voiding bets on the remaining 11 horses, but not on a horse that was withdrawn before the race was cancelled. You’ve already lost because your horse wouldn’t run even if the meeting goes ahead. For IC to take part they would need to reopen the race.
I suppose they might refund as a goodwill gesture but I certainly wouldn’t expect it – surely part of the ante-post gamble is that your horse will show up fit on the day.
Having just read the forecast, I’d be surprised if they can save either day.
It’s gone gloomy amazingly quickly, hasn’t it?
I am not 100% on this Roseblossom. But I don’t think it makes any difference. To be able to lose a bet, there has to be a winner. In this case, there won’t be a winner of the Kempton race, if they VOID the race. Therefore, bookmakers can not keep my money. No chance of winning = No bet. I think.
But your horse wasn’t declared at the final dec stage – I can understand them voiding bets on the remaining 11 horses, but not on a horse that was withdrawn before the race was cancelled. You’ve already lost because your horse wouldn’t run even if the meeting goes ahead. For IC to take part they would need to reopen the race.
I suppose they might refund as a goodwill gesture but I certainly wouldn’t expect it – surely part of the ante-post gamble is that your horse will show up fit on the day.
So you think it is ok for bookmakers to have losers in a market where there is no winner – they don’t have to pay out a penny, yet take money off of some punters?
Value Is EverythingGinge – you’ll definitely get your cash back if it’s run anywhere other than Kempton or the decs re-opened
The 26th is looking less & less likely and now trading around 2/9 on Betfair to be off
But your horse wasn’t declared at the final dec stage – I can understand them voiding bets on the remaining 11 horses, but not on a horse that was withdrawn before the race was cancelled. You’ve already lost because your horse wouldn’t run even if the meeting goes ahead. For IC to take part they would need to reopen the race.
I suppose they might refund as a goodwill gesture but I certainly wouldn’t expect it – surely part of the ante-post gamble is that your horse will show up fit on the day.
So you think it is ok for bookmakers to have losers in a market where there is no winner – they don’t have to pay out a penny, yet take money off of some punters?
In the case of ante-post betting, yes. Imperial Commander hasn’t been declared to run so you have lost your money – why should you get it back because a race the horse is no longer entered for is cancelled?
I don’t understand why you think you should get money back for a bet that’s already lost regardless of the outcome of the race.
Still, I am apparently wrong so good luck to you!
Copy of Tattersall’s here:
http://horse-racing-student.co.uk/guide/tattersalls-rules.aspI've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysYesterday evening, I watched a news report about the chances of Kempton’s Boxing Day meeting being on – the turf track was tested by the clerk of the course. It looked very green and seemed ok to him, and me.
If the meeting is cancelled, then it must be due to adverse conditions out with the track itself.
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Yesterday evening, I watched a news report about the chances of Kempton’s Boxing Day meeting being on – the turf track was tested by the clerk of the course. It looked very green and seemed ok to him, and me.
If the meeting is cancelled, then it must be due to adverse conditions out with the track itself.
I saw the same report and was very hopeful, he even commented that the ground was warming due to the covers being on and it sweating and also was melting the snow above.
I agree it’s all rather confusing. The problem seems to be the covers are stuck to the ground and are likely to keep sticking if there is a heavy frost on the night before 26 Dec. But it’s odd that this wasn’t thought to be a problem before.
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It’s off
on Boxing Day – 8 race card for Monday.
Let’s hope CH4 can cover it.
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