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Many thanks, Mr Fists.
Mr Ginger – just about to set off to Newbury now with the plan of trying at least to avoid total ignominy.
All the grisly details sure to follow later this week!gc
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Sorry Lekha,
Were you there?
Had I seen your post would have looked out for you.
You should’ve introduced yourself.Mark
Value Is Everythingthey were rubbish!! Hahaha. Luckily i was there on the bench and for moral support, and managed to win the spectators quiz. Had a smashing night though. I mostly enjoyed happy jacks driving trying to get out of the racecourse! Haha!
Rubbish indeed!
Hah!
We just happened to be less good than some of the other teams there.
Think of our effort as that of a point-to-pointer being rushed straight into Open company after a Maiden win – not completely hopeless, but rarely looking likely to unsettle more experienced rivals.
Four out of eight rounds being entirely Flat-oriented didn’t help, and without Zoz we’d have taken an even bigger kicking on them. But then it’s not as if we didn’t know we might get questions on it, having seen Ginger’s sample questions; and my own rotten performance on the Flat stuff should help allay Grasshopper’s fears that I’m on the turn at the very least.
Zome did indeed win the spectators’ quiz, which for a day or two at least makes her bigger than Jesus in this parish. However, you were lucky you were allowed to stay long enough to do said quiz, hun, after the looks you got at the bar when asking for a cherry Martini!
A top night, all in all, I thought, and a repeat visit seems very likely. Thanks to Stewart and Hilda Nash, West Berks Racing Club and of course Ginger for having / inviting us.
Famous folk count: Lenses Thornton, Andrew Barr, Mike Cattermole, Geoff Lester, Lawney Hill, Mark Usher, Lee Mottershead, Craig Thake, Steve Dennis, Graham Dench, Ashley Rumney and lots of other Raceform people on (more or less) home turf.
Jeremy
(graysonscolumn)Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Cheers muchly to everyone who put it together, for yes we may have been unutterably rubbish (and cast shame on a fantastic forum) but at least fun was had. Which is after all, the very point.
Zome, some cheerleader you are!
Old old story Jeremy if you are interested in something you know most of it……If I was there on the flat questions you would have been totally
At least you and the lads tried which is great!
Bea good chap and throw the questions up if you have them so we can say "I knew that"
Highlights from last night:
Trying to find our way in
Trying to find our way out
Cheese Melts
Free crisps
Jeremy getting a Flat question correct
Martin Dwyer being suggested as the rider of Flakey DoveLowlights:
Pretty much everything else
Jeremy getting a Flat question correct
SSSSSHHHHHH!!!!!
(It was Harry Wragg, btw).
gc
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
For anyone thinking they could’ve done better here is the first round of the quiz. More later.
WEST BERKS QUIZZ 2009
ROUND 1
THE 2007/2008 NATIONAL HUNT SEASON1/. Which horse started as 9/2 favourite over eventual winner Denman in the Hennessy Gold Cup at Newbury; only to fall at the 7th fence.
2/. Who rode Sizing Europe to victory in the Greatwood Handicap Hurdle at the Cheltenham Open meeting?
3/. Paul Nicholls trained the first 4 winners on Tote Gold Trophy day at Newbury. But which horse ended that run when only 7th, despite starting favourite for the feature race?
4/. Name the only horse to lower the colours of the top novice chaser Tidal Bay?
5/. Which horse prevented the David Pipe trained Ashkazar from landing the £75,000 bonus at the Cheltenham Festival, having won the Imperial Cup at Sandown the previous Saturday?
6/. Which horse finished 2nd in both Welsh and Scottish Grand Nationals?
7/. Which 20/1 shot carried top weight of 11 stones 12 pounds in the Bet 365 Gold Cup at Sandown, finishing 10th of 19 runners?
8/. Name the sire of Paul Nicholl’s top juvenile hurdler Celestial Halo?
9/. Which well fancied horse starting 3rd favourite at 11/1 in the Grand National, departed at the same 25th fence (2nd Valentines) as he did the previous year?
10/. Name one of the two U.K. trained horses to take part in the Irish Grand National won by Hear The Echo?
11/. At which course did the 2006 Supreme Novices winner Noland make his winning reappearance after injury?
12/. Which horse completed a treble for Paul Nicholls and Ruby Walsh, on Racing Post Chase day at Kempton, the partnership having won earlier in the afternoon with Oslot and Gungadu?
Mark
Value Is EverythingMy party piece ( for aficienados only, you understand
) was being able to name ( without referring to notes ) every Derby winner since 1849 until present day. Don’t ask me why 1849. I used to offer those who said I couldn’t do it a pound for every one I got wrong or forgot, but they in turn had to pay me 10p for every one I got right. Made me a few quid among the racing fans in pubs. It would suprise you the amount of people who took the bet. Quite sad really – but it past the time of day.
In case you’re wondering, I gave a list of the Derby winners to an indepedent adjudicator, who could pull me up any time I slipped up – which was rare.
Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning
Great effort people. Many thanks to those who flew the flag for TRF, much appreciated.
Jeremy –
“Think of our effort as that of a point-to-pointer being rushed straight into Open company after a Maiden win” I’m no further on.
A two year old maiden being thrust straight into a Group 3 – is that what you mean?
ROUND 1
THE 2007/2008 NATIONAL HUNT SEASONNote: we got 10 on this round. It all went a bit plop soon after, though.
Corm – what’s all this blabber about something called Group 3? Isn’t that something to do with security vans?
gc
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Is this where it went wrong Jeremy?
ROUND 2
GROUP ONE 2-Y-O RACES1/. Prior to Natagora in 2008, who was the last winner of the Cheveley Park Stakes winner to return to Newmarket the following spring to take the 1000 Guineas?
2/. Which filly beat subsequent Oaks winner Casual Look in to 2nd place in the Meon Valley Stud Fillies Mile at Ascot in 2002?
3/. What was the starting price subsequent Derby winner Generous, when winning the 1990 Dewhurst Stakes at Newmarket?
4/. Who rode consecutive runnings of the Racing Post Trophy aboard High Chaperal and Brian Boru in 2001/2002?
5/. Which Henry Cecil trained horse took both the Middle Park and Dewhurst Stakes in 1982?
6/. Name the last of trainer Vincent O’Brien’s 7 Dewhurst Stakes winners?
7/. Derby hero Reference Point won the 1986 William Hill Trophy (now Racing Post Trophy) at Doncaster; but which Steve Cauthen ridden stable companion started favourite for the race when only managing 7th place?
8/. With which horse did John Gosden win the 2001 Prix Marcel Boussac at Longchamp?
9/. Name one of the two horses involved in the three-way photo finish of the 2001 Dewhurst Stakes won by Rock Of Gibralter?
10/. Apart from Brigadier Gerard, who was the only other Middle Park Stakes winner during the 70’s to go on to 2000 Guineas glory?
11/. What was the original name of the Racing Post Trophy when held for the first time at Doncaster in 1961?
12/. Which sire was responsible for both Prince Of Dance and Scenic who dead-heated for the 1988 Dewhurst Stakes.
Round 3
MICK FITZGERALD1/. Which horse trained by Nicky Henderson did Mick Fitzgerald ride to victory at Kempton on Boxing Day in both 1997 and 1998?
2/. For which trainer did Mick ride Duncan Idaho to win 4 hurdle races in the space of 3 months in the early days of his career?
3/. Which horse gave Mick Fitzgerald his first of three victories in the Totesport Gold Trophy Hurdle at Newbury?
4/. On which horse did Mick ride consecutive victories in the Cheltenham Festival in 1999 and 2000?
5/. In which race did Mick ride Kauto Star to victory?
6/. When Mick rode Trabolgan to win the Hennesssy at Newbury, which horse started favourite to beat him, finishing 3rd?
7/. Which 16/1 shot ridden by Mick ran the race of his life to finish 3rd to Istabraq in the 2000 Champion Hurdle?
8/. On which course did Mick ride his last treble of his career, on Working Title, Fondnes and Gold Award on 14th January 2008?
9/. On which horse trained by Jackie Retter did Mick record 7 victories over a 3 year period early in his career?
10/. Which horse gave Mick his last Cheltenham Festival winner in the 2006 Racing Post Chase?
11/. When Mick rode Geos to victory in the 2000 Tote Gold Trophy, which horse provided a big race double by taking the inaugural running of the Aon Chase?
12/. Which trainer did Mick first join when he first came to ride in England?
More to come later.
Mark
Value Is Everything
All the grisly details sure to follow later this week!
) was being able to name ( without referring to notes ) every Derby winner since 1849 until present day. Don’t ask me why 1849. 
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