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Anyone Betting Australia For The Guineas?

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Not for me but

    Australia is a best price 5/2 across the board now BUT with betvictor you can get 5/2 for Aiden O’Brien to be the winning trainer of the Guineas ie – you get War Command aswell and any other O’Brien horse chucked in for the same price.

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    #472821
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    Personally prefer War Command but well backed with us in last 48 hours.

    He’s 14/1 to win the Triple Crown with us for what it’s worth.

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    Personally prefer War Command but well backed with us in last 48 hours.

    He’s 14/1 to win the Triple Crown with us for what it’s worth.

    Apologies if I’ve missed something JJM but could you clarify what is "us"

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    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Personally prefer War Command but well backed with us in last 48 hours.

    He’s 14/1 to win the Triple Crown with us for what it’s worth.

    Apologies if I’ve missed something JJM but could you clarify what is "us"

    The clue might be in his avatar Drone. :lol: I call him ‘One bet Victor’ for obvious reasons,a complete joke of a Bookmakers! :roll:

    #472933
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    The odds currently offered on the race are an absolute joke. Ladbrokes go 2/1 and 5/1 at the head of the betting, covering 50% of the book and with the next 3 in the betting added in they have almost 85% of a 100% book.

    Today Ertijaal scrambles home in an all weather egg and spoon race and is as low as 16/1 for the 2000 Guineas. Utter tosh, but not quite as bad as the time a few firms offered up a colt at 33/1 for the Guineas about a week after he had died on the gallops!

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Ah, thank you TAPK

    For the record, in those dim and distant days (circa 1995) when I fought the unequal battle with off-course bookmakers and was the proud owner of a credit account with Chandlers I was knocked-back on a pony to around 20/1 on some nag that Pricewise had also cornered. Happy days, it’d be a fiver now I expect :)

    Mind you dear old fearless Victor did at least bugger off to Gib and accept our wagers at 3% ‘tax’; and then came the Exchanges and all was light

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    VC’s claim to fame nowadays is that his adverts are prolonging the career of Paul Kaye, whose had a previous incarnation as the very funny spoof celebrity interviewer Dennis Pennis.

    In that guise, he once red-carpeted a 75-year old Tony Curtis – who was dripping in white fur and gold – with the comment: "I usually try to make celebrities look ridiculous but in this case I see you’ve beaten me to it."

    Mike

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    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    VC’s claim to fame nowadays is that his adverts are prolonging the career of Paul Kaye, whose had a previous incarnation as the very funny spoof celebrity interviewer Dennis Pennis.

    In that guise, he once red-carpeted a 75-year old Tony Curtis – who was dripping in white fur and gold – with the comment: "I usually try to make celebrities look ridiculous but in this case I see you’ve beaten me to it."

    Mike

    Far from me to comment but the creative direction of the company is questionable, including such adverts.

    Returning to topic however, will Australia have enough toe to win a Guineas when pedigree points toward middle distance? Silly price.

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    Ausralias price does seem to be unbelievably short. i can only assume coolmore have steamed into it but they usually leave that till the day of the race.Im still not convinced hes going to the guineas as aiden obrien said that if he was war command might end up going to the french 2000 guineas.If it comes up very soft at newmarket then both war command and australia could miss the race.Its always a big gamble backing a horse in the 2000 guineas especially as you dont know whos trained on and if they havent run this season then how well they are. Fwiw australia look superb in the obrien gallop testerday but the one that stood out was tapestry.That looked a serious racehorse and if if is good to soft or better i tnink she looks great value for the 1000 guineas.if it is soft at newmarket then the first tto in the racing post trophy,kingston hill and johann strauus will be who i will be backing.

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    I earmarked Australia as my idea of the 2014 Derby winner after he thrashed Dermot Weld’s hotpot, Free Eagle, in the group 3 event at Leopardstown last september .

    The Galileo colt looks very much the classic middle distance type rather than a Guineas horse.

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    Amongst the contributors I am reading on the forums there doesn’t appear that much confidence in the horse at all. Yet he keeps on shortening despite form you could easily pick holes in and now a less than impressive gallop.

    So who is backing him? Is it Aidan trying to justify his own opinion?

    #473090
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    I dont know why aiden obrien keeps saying that every year that he could have the best horse hes ever trained.From what a lot of the previous jockeys at ballydoyle have said he is an intense person and has a very pressurised job as he is expected to keep turning out stallions like mastercraftsman and now declaration of war. Australia could turn out to be a star and by goodness he is bred to be, but until he has done it on the track then he is just an extremely exciting colt.

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    If Australia were named Austria, Afghanistan or Azerbaijan would he be rousing the interest he is?

    Or is that grandiose name a clue in itself?

    Or perhaps a self (un)fulfilling prophecy?

    I recall Alistair Down writing post King Of Kings’ Guineas win, summat like "with a name like that he wasn’t destined to run in a Bellewstown selling hurdle"

    what’s in a name? :?

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    ..what’s in a name? :?

    Dunno; however, he can’t possibly be as good as Camelot if we’re using names as a guide to racing merit.

    On a separate note: what makes Australia better than Austria, Afghanistan or Azerbaijan?

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    On a separate note: what makes Australia better than Austria, Afghanistan or Azerbaijan?

    The weather?

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    On a separate note: what makes Australia better than Austria, Afghanistan or Azerbaijan?

    All countries would make fine names for racehorses, with the possible exception of Centralafricanrepublic, and who knows, Coolmore may have them registered for use on horses they believe don’t quite have the potential of one they’ve chosen to name after a huge country that’s also the name of a continent

    Be ready when they unleash America, Asia, Europe and Oceania :)

    They did pretty well with horses named after pre-eminent composers didn’t they? Mozart, Stravinsky, though Beethoven did admittedly under-perform; perhaps they should have tried him with ear plugs :)

    My theory is probably yet more of the amateur psychobabble I’m prone to waffling…but then I recall Dubai Millennium and Frankel who were deliberately given names particularly cherished by the owners due to the exceptional promise they showed when young, as indeed was Camelot I think

    Needless to say I do not recommend anyone follows this system blindly :lol:

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