Answer this horse racing question then ask the next

[Cancello]

Agree very much about the spruce, it’s getting halfway towards that gimmicky Hamburg race where they just about run through the ‘fences’, though they don’t swim in the GN yet as they do on the other! Bechers needs its character back too.

Reg question, the championship race was in the NH sphere.

[Seasider]

A horse winning his maiden in England is more than likely to tip up in Ireland than anywhere else, if a change of countries is key.

I suggest the Irish trained 2007 Champion Hurdler Sublimity, previously trained in England by Sir M Stoute and oft ridden by K Fallon, Esq.

[Cancello]

Well deduced Seasider.
Maiden was at York when he beat a Tregonning talking horse.

[Crepello1957]

Think I am due to post one on here, sorry for the delay.

What do the following 20thc Epsom Derby winners have in common?

Hyperion
Dante
Pearl Diver
Erhaab

and no others.

[Seasider]

^ Based solely upon the information given above, I don’t think anyone knows the answer.

This will be easy for some but:

In which year did the Cheltenham Gold Cup feature 5 winners of that race (2 previous, 2 future, and the winner in the required year).

[Crepello1957]

I won’t bother posting anything else to this page. This is a horrible forum.
It is actually something that people should know and isn’t that difficult. A bit of lateral thinking required.

[greenasgrass]

Sorry Crepello I did bust my brains and my googling thumb for about an hour on that question but got nowhere. Mind you I am woefully ignorant of racing history especially the Flat and had only heard of the first horse (well the first two, sort of, as I have heard of the Dante stakes). I feel like a selling plater running in a Grade 1 when I look at this thread!

[Cancello]

I dusted white mould powder off the Mortimer book to try and find some patterns. Hyperion had a stable companion rag in the race ridden by Steve Donoghue, Erhaab similar with one ridden by Lester. I then got to a dead end on this angle. Then noticed that the dam’s of these four all had many,many foals but nowt that would put the four in a special category……

[Crepello1957]

It is not connected to their racing careers or breeding, but what happened to them after they had raced.

[Seasider]

Another clue please.

[Crepello1957]

At the stud farm

[Seasider]

Still no idea.

I think we’re going to need a bigger clue.

[Crepello1957]

It’s to do with their stallion careers.
Hyperion only fits in the group due to something connected to the war.
If no one gets it now I will post answer tomorrow night. People will kick themselves……

[greenasgrass]

Hyperion was evacuated to Yorkshire during the war and Dante stood in Yorkshire. Dunno what the connection is with the others though.
Erhaab started at stud in Japan then America then moved back to England and moved studs within England. Pearl Diver started his stud career in England then was sold to to Japan. No Yorkshire connection with these last two that I can find!

[Crepello1957]

You are close enough to give you the point (if there was one) They are all stallions who spent some of their careers in the north of the UK.
Hyperion at Theakstone during the war, Dante at the same stud in the 1950s, Pearl Diver at Limestone Stud in North Lincolnshire and Erhaab finished up at a stud in Shropshire.

[Seasider]

Hi greenasgrass – just curious to know if you have a question you’d like to ask.

[greenasgrass]

Hi, due to my lack of historical racing knowledge I made a Christmas quiz. Should be easy; all jumps based and weighted towards recent history. Looking for the first letter of each answer to spell a phrase.

1. Christmas stocking item; chaser famous for big race win despite tack failure.
2. Surname of trainer of popular multiple King George winner
3. First name of jockey of another multiple KG winner
4. The Maze racecourse has a meeting on Boxing Day. The proper name of the course consists of 2 words; answer is the 2nd word.
5. Last year’s Christmas Hurdle winner

6. Surname of jockey whose mount fell in the King George; horse and rider made amends in the Gold Cup
7. Surname of trainer with 2017 King George favourite
8. Dual Ericsson winner
9. Another 90s Ericsson winner
10. Seasonally named previous runner in the Hennessy for this year’s Ladbrokes Trophy winning trainer
11. Trainer whose surname rhymes with a synonym for “snowstorm”; trained a KG winner
12. Trains a previous winner of the Christmas hurdle; has entries in Leopardstown Christmas Chase
13. First name of trainer of horse in question 5.
14. Winner of the Lexus; went on to win Cheltenham Gold Cup

15. Last year’s King George winner
16. First name of one of the jockeys of the horse trained by trainer in question 2.
17. Surname of a King George winning jockey in recent years (he shares his seasonal first name with a trainer who has entries in this year’s race)

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