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  • #1323056
    greenasgrass
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    I remember this little Kiwi event horse competing at the Olympics in his late teens:
    http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/2013/03/29/world-champion-eventer-bounce-dies/

    #1323079
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    I remember this little Kiwi event horse competing at the Olympics in his late teens:
    http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/2013/03/29/world-champion-eventer-bounce-dies/

    Surely everyone remembers Marion Coakes/Mould’s little pony Stroller? Silver medal in the individual show jumping at the Mexico Olympics aged 18, won the Hickstead Derby aged 17 and the Hamburg Derby when 20. He continued into his early twenties and won the QE2 Cup for the second time aged 21.

    Lived to the ripe old age of 36.

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    Avatar photoPeter Poston’s Ghost
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    I sort of remember Stroller but Mrs PPG was a great fan of the lovely little chap.
    I managed to replace a long lost copy of Marion’s book “Meet Stroller” via the wonder of Amazon.
    She was hugely grateful I can tell you :)

    #1323193
    Devonian
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    O.K. I have not set one of these before so it may be far too easy.

    Which horse ran unplaced in the Irish Cambridgeshire Handicap and later went on to be voted Horse of the Year after switching stables ?

    #1323276
    Cancello
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    This is Busted – was too young at the time to remember him, but Tony Morris,if I remember right, in an article on Mtoto’s pedigree many years ago, recounted how Noel Murless saw him running on the TV and thought he’d make a good pacemaker for Royal Palace.

    #1323280
    Devonian
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    This is Busted – was too young at the time to remember him, but Tony Morris,if I remember right, in an article on Mtoto’s pedigree many years ago, recounted how Noel Murless saw him running on the TV and thought he’d make a good pacemaker for Royal Palace.

    Cancello wins the races :good:

    It was indeed Busted who I saw on TV being ridden all wrong and making the running in the 1966 Irish Derby before dropping tamely away. He was lined up to be gelded and sent jumping before the master trainer Noel Murless intervened seeing him as a good lead horse for his Derby hope Royal Palace. Transferred from Brud Fetherstonhaugh Murless improved Busted to such an extent that he was quickly taken off lead duties and won 4 races at 4 in 1967 (the golden year for Murless) including the Eclipse and King George before picking up an injury and missing the Arc for which he was favourite. When held up he was able to deliver an amazing turn of foot, rather similar to that of his son Mtoto. George Moore had preferred the 1,000 winner Fleet over Busted in the Eclipse so dear old Bill Rickaby picked up a big race winner. Happy days for this racing mad schoolboy.

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    Cancello
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    Don’t think 50 years on a recital about the present would be so interesting, in fact they would be damn confusing going on about a race with seven Ballydoyle runners versus five Gosden ones.Or ten O’Leary owned, versus six Ritchie Ritchies.

    Anyway, here’s my question. No tricks or nothing in code, though it may read a touch poppycock at first.

    This gelding won at the Cheltenham festival.
    He was trained by two trainers during his career.
    The first trainer once trained a horse who won a major race with another trainer.
    He also trained a very successful chaser, who later peaked with a northern trainer.
    The second trainer of the quiz horse was one of the major trainers.
    The owner of the quiz horse also owned one of the most popular animals of his time.
    He also had two trainers, the second being the trainer of the quiz horse.

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    What a good question, Cancello.

    I have one of my own concerning the owner of the quiz horse. I’m curious to know, to the best of your knowledge, whether or not this person had a relative who owned a Derby winner.

    #1323477
    Cancello
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    I honestly don’t know Seasider. But the very popular animal that he owned, would of been liked by all sane racing fans, though perhaps not known to the general public, despite being high class. This well known animal beat a very famous horse when racing over hurdles with his first trainer.( not the same first trainer as the quiz horses’s though they both had the same, major name, second trainer.

    The quiz horse won at the festival with his first trainer.Later,in the hands of the second,major name trainer, he won a race beating a Cheltenham Gold Cup winner.

    #1323499
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    Great inter connected clues there Cancello.

    I think they may work if I assume the original trainer is David Murray-Smith. His other good horses Rhyme N Reason and Twin Oaks moved on to Elsworth and GW Richards. The owner may be Brian Kilpatrick who owned Sabin de Loir and the horse in question, AQUILIFER. Their later careers were with Martin Pipe

    #1323515
    Cancello
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    Excellent work, Pilgarlic.

    Must mention Sabin Du Loir’s Sun Alliance Hurdle, beating Dawn Run, with West Tip behind. Also Paul Croucher, who rode Aquilifier when he won at Cheltenham. Had been a journeyman rider for a few years but was suddenly blooming. Killed in a horrific car crash that Autumn.

    And Murray- Smith, for a short period had the midas touch, then sank to normality.

    #1323572
    pilgarlic
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    Thanks Cancello. That question deserved a longer run but fell right for me having followed Murray-Smith’s fortunes for a while. Was Sabin Du Loir on the sidelines for a long time before reappearing for Pipe ?

    I`ll leave the next question open to anyone who fancies a go but just to ask something…

    What does the street name Brenka Avenue near Aintree racecourse commemorate ?

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    Avatar photoGoldenMiller34
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    It commemorates the old British Enka Artificial Silk Co works that was on the site of the National Aircraft Factory, Pilgarlic. The British Enka works was there from 1925-1965 and had a single railway line and small locomotive for, mainly, coal to be delivered. The main Enka company was Dutch. Courtaulds acquired British Enka in 1961 and four years later the factory was redeveloped for use by another Courtaulds subsidiary. I guess a lot of parachutes were made there during the war. I think Brenka Avenue ended where the railway began but I don’t suppose the line is still there.

    #1323712
    pilgarlic
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    Well done Golden Miller34,lots of detail there. I think Brenka Avenue is near the Halfords that tries to make a fortune on car parking charges on the three day meeting.

    Over to you

    #1323731
    Avatar photoGoldenMiller34
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    In post-Second World War Grand Nationals which horse completes this chronological list:

    Richardstown, Dandy Tim, Mr Jones, Bassnet, Ben Nevis, Mr Chris…?

    #1323738
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Total guess…..Zabenz?

    #1323827
    Avatar photoGoldenMiller34
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    Nice one, Bobby, spot on. They are the horses who have fallen/unseated at the Water Jump since the war (list does not include BD & PU).

    Do you fancy setting a question this time? If not I’ll throw it open to anyone until I can conjure up another one after racing today, Chris.

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