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- December 24, 2016 at 19:29 #1278421
Too easy Seasider! Over to you….
December 25, 2016 at 20:32 #1278477Thanks, CoK.
Merry Christmas to TRF members plus any spouses, paramours etc. Speaking of which:
What connects Santa Claus to a 1960s pop singer.
December 26, 2016 at 10:31 #1278499Thanks, CoK.
Merry Christmas to TRF members plus any spouses, paramours etc. Speaking of which:
What connects Santa Claus to a 1960s pop singer.
Are we talking of the 1961 Guineas and Derby winner Santa Claus by Chamossaire owned by John Ismay and Mrs Darby Rogers, sister to the trainer Mick Rogers? Only Popsong I come up with is a Titanic one (another John Ismay owned the Titanic).
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SilkDecember 26, 2016 at 17:48 #1278587I always thought there was only one Santa Claus but to my dismay it turns out there have been four. Never mind.
Anyway, the dual Derby winner is the horse I had in mind and it is the Epsom version of the Classic that is of interest here.
The singer had a couple of dozen top 40 singles between 1959 and 1966 without ever achieving a No.1. However, seven of his releases reached the top 5.
December 28, 2016 at 08:01 #1278873Hi, in Santa Claus’s 1964 Derby the fourth place horse Anselmo was owned by Billy Fury!
December 28, 2016 at 17:57 #1278987Correct, GM.
I think Billy paid about £8,000 for the horse, which exceeded all expectations by finishing 4th @ 100/1 under an 18 year old Paul Cook.
Well done.
December 28, 2016 at 19:06 #1278998Thanks Seasider.
Back to more familiar territory.
Who was the first woman to officially (women were first permitted to hold a licence in their own name in 1966) train a runner in the Grand National?
December 28, 2016 at 21:44 #1279020Is it the Queen of Aintree, Jenny S. Pitmann with Corbierre in 1983?
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SilkDecember 28, 2016 at 21:45 #1279021Oops, it was a runner not a winner You asked for…
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SilkDecember 29, 2016 at 00:16 #1279037Yes, first runner Silk. Nevertheless a good try as Jenny’s initial entrant was in 1977 but the very first officially trained by a woman was earlier.
December 29, 2016 at 10:14 #1279057Auriol Sinclair and Simian?
December 29, 2016 at 17:09 #1279182Another good try Crepello but alas no, not Auriol Sinclair.
December 30, 2016 at 12:26 #1279261Was it Norah Wilmot?
“Mrs Nagle was not alone in having to operate under the name of a male employee in order to earn a living: Norah Wilmot, whose owners included the Queen, is fondly remembered as one of the grand old ladies of racing. She numbered the Goodwood and Doncaster Cups among her “unofficial” trophies, and became the first woman to train a winner legitimately the day after she was granted a licence, when her filly, Pat, won at Brighton in August 1966.”Best Wishes
SilkDecember 30, 2016 at 13:50 #1279270Afraid not Silk. Norah Wilmot, like Auriol Sinclair, Florence Nagle & Louie Dingwall, never had a runner in the National. Also ruled out is Rosemary Lockhart-Smith who trained Steel Bridge to be 2nd in 1969 because although she was entitled to apply for a licence she did not, preferring to carry on under her husband’s.
Careful reading of my comments will narrow down the span of years and another vague clue is: Shakespeare!
December 31, 2016 at 11:55 #1279468Was Petruchio’s Son (1973) trained by a woman?
December 31, 2016 at 12:02 #1279471Spot on OA
December 31, 2016 at 12:07 #1279473I don’t know the trainer though!
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