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Well here we are again Saturday and Sunday at Doncaster followed by two AW meetings Monday, nothing at all on Tuesday two more AW meetings Wednesday and a real bonanza on grass at Folkestone on Thursday (I can hardly wait)followed by another dose of AW on Saturday.What a shambles! Racing for Change you couldn’t make it up
welcome to the party Kent , its a dross fest , but look dont moan just punt and lose , that’s the order of the day
Ricky
ps nOTTINGHAM and Leicester next week so can go to both of those …AW can keep permanently off limits
Well here we are again Saturday and Sunday at Doncaster followed by two AW meetings Monday, nothing at all on Tuesday two more AW meetings Wednesday and a real bonanza on grass at Folkestone on Thursday (I can hardly wait)followed by another dose of AW on Saturday.What a shambles! Racing for Change you couldn’t make it up
While I am no fan of RFC, wasn’t the current fixture list sorted way before they go invlolved? And if the date of Doncaster is always going to be set in stone, then there is always going to be a steady start until we get to Newbury and the Greenham meeting. There’s no point having loads of meetings if horses are ready to run, you’d only get small fields, meetings off because of rain and then people would only complain about that.
Don’t know how it could be done but to me it seems obvious to move the Lincoln meeting to the start of April and give the start of the flat more impetus instead of the current shambles.
Then again I only follow the jumps so I hope the situation stays as it is and can have a good laugh!
Well here we are again Saturday and Sunday at Doncaster followed by two AW meetings Monday, nothing at all on Tuesday two more AW meetings Wednesday and a real bonanza on grass at Folkestone on Thursday (I can hardly wait)followed by another dose of AW on Saturday.What a shambles! Racing for Change you couldn’t make it up
So would you prefer there to be no racing at all?
Perhaps we could force the real quality to run at this early stage of the season. Because it would have been a real treat to see Sea The Stars run in a mud bath & be below par for the rest of the season wouldn’t it?Sheesh!
welcome to the party Kent , its a dross fest , but look dont moan just punt and lose , that’s the order of the day
Ricky
ps nOTTINGHAM and Leicester next week so can go to both of those …AW can keep permanently off limits
Or you could not punt. It’s not the law you know?
ANTHONY CUTT WROTE
ps nOTTINGHAM and Leicester next week so can go to both of those …AW can keep permanently off limits
Or you could not punt. It’s not the law you know?
I’m well aware that I don’t have to punt and in fact I don’t.But racing is constantly moaning about the levy begging bowl not being filled and this is hardly the way to fill it.The point is I never mix AW form with grass and vice versa and I’m sure many other people with punting sense don’t either so with this constantly switching back and forward between the two surfaces basically means that virtually a whole month at the beginning of the short flat season gets wasted season before some form starts to show on which I’m willing to punt nothing to do with class. Then another spluttering month at the end and in between flat meetings morning noon and night small fields and too much to keep up with reduces the whole thing to about 4 months.Totally crazy system
I’m well aware that I don’t have to punt and in fact I don’t.But racing is constantly moaning about the
levy begging bowl
not being filled and this is hardly the way to fill it.
This time of year has always been ropey and this week has been particularly turgid, but please, don’t buy into this clever propaganda spread recently by the William Hill pairing of Ralph Topping and his PR mouthpiece, David Hood. This is doublespeak of the worst kind.
Horse racing has always been a sport ideal for betting. In 1961 horse racing in this country surrendered the not-inconsiderable betting rights to fixed odds bookmakers. They were happy to pay for the service – and indeed, other bookmakers are today, particularly Corals. They pay for the service through a levy, the scale of which is negotiable through a board system.
The levy isn’t begging. It never has been. Its a payment for a service. I’m surprised Topping hasn’t been confronted more often about his use of language.
If bookmakers no longer wish to pay for the service, then that’s sad, never mind, goodbye. Let the sport self-fund through a pari-mutuel or an exchange system. Don’t believe the hype.
"Maxilon 5" Wrote
If bookmakers no longer wish to pay for the service, then that’s sad, never mind, goodbye. Let the sport self-fund through a pari-mutuel or an exchange system. Don’t believe the hype.
I believe racing should self fund, bookmakers bet on football, tennis golf you name it and they’re not demanding payment to run their sport.This system just leads to complacency in a sport that really doesn’t know who it should be pleasing and ends up pleasing no one. It needs to get into the real world, start being professional and competing to bring the customers and sponsors. It won’t do that by staging an amateur riders race on the second or any other day of the flat. This just indicates the time warp they’re are living in.In the last year before the arrival of artificial surfaces, 1989, the turf flat schedule for the week after the Lincoln was :
Mon : Folkestone, Leicester
Tue : Leicester
Wed : Hamilton
Thur : Hamilton
Fri : Kempton
Sat : Lingfield
To the best of my recollection, during this week, nobody died of excitement.
AP
If there is one thing Racing For Change should be doing it is sorting out the start of the flat (rather than the other relative nonsense they seem to be bothered with).
Why not have the Lincoln meeting the Saturday before the Craven meeting and starting the flat like that? Surely that makes far more sense than the present non event of a start????? Not rocket science either is it? OK this year that would co-incide with the Grand National – in that case put Doncaster on Sunday and Monday.
"apracing" Wrote In the last year before the arrival of artificial surfaces, 1989, the turf flat schedule for the week after the Lincoln was :
Mon : Folkestone, Leicester
Tue : Leicester
Wed : Hamilton
Thur : Hamilton
Fri : Kempton
Sat : Lingfield
To the best of my recollection, during this week, nobody died of excitement
Hi AP
Whilst I agree no one died of excitement that was not my point at least then turf flat form started to build up from day one. Folkestone today is full of AW form and conversely Kempton on Saturday is largely turf form. I have always advocated AW racing having a proper season and stopping when the turf flat startsIn the last year before the arrival of artificial surfaces, 1989, the turf flat schedule for the week after the Lincoln was :
Mon : Folkestone, Leicester
Tue : Leicester
Wed : Hamilton
Thur : Hamilton
Fri : Kempton
Sat : Lingfield
To the best of my recollection, during this week, nobody died of excitement.
Sure, but that week – compared to this and recent years – was at least lukewarm and a little eye-catching with meetings scheduled every day and two dayers at Leicester and HamiltonRecall a reasonably valuable (Listed?) Guineas trial called the Burton Overy Stakes run at Leicester which may well have been at the above meeting
Doubt anyone believes the start of the Flat has ever been anything but a fairly damp squib after the lonesome spark of Donny but it would seem things have got worse rather than better
The ‘narrative’ is now written in a particularly aberrant dialect of colloquial Swahili whereas back then it was at least in a vaguely understandable Double Dutch
Dougal,
These recent threads may be of interest to you
Click on them, they’re links
Sure, but that week – compared to this and recent years – was at least lukewarm and a little eye-catching with meetings scheduled every day and two dayers at Leicester and Hamilton
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