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IMO you’re all mad, taking 5/2 about a novice hurdler who might not enjoy Cheltenham or the spring ground (or even make it there!), and we simply have no idea how good the British hurdlers are yet. Better 5/2 shots every day of the week IMO.
Fwiw I think Wholestone is an unbelievable EW price. 4/1 for a place…should be 4/1 to win.
IMO you’re all mad, taking 5/2 about a novice hurdler who might not enjoy Cheltenham or the spring ground (or even make it there!), and we simply have no idea how good the British hurdlers are yet. Better 5/2 shots every day of the week IMO.
Your right in a way, i just laid off some of my Death Duty at 5/2 so i’m up on the race whatever.
I must say DD sets the standard because because he will / could improve for the step up in trip. Todays race was at a crawl early on but he jumped great, i can just see him tanking along with 3 to go at Cheltenham looking around for dangers. Then 5/2 will look great
Willoughby Court improving at a rate of knots and should jump better on better ground. He’ll hopefully go here.
Willoughby Court improving at a rate of knots and should jump better on better ground. He’ll hopefully go here.
Why is he going to jump better on better ground? The only time he has raced on good ground he was hammered by Get On The Yager. I wouldn’t be confident he would even turn up if it was good ground on the Friday.
I backed both Willoughby Court and Gayebury today but on good ground I suspect both would have played second fiddle to the Irish horse.
Why is he going to jump better on better ground? The only time he has raced on good ground he was hammered by Get On The Yager.
Racing on it and jumping off it two different things. Any horse would jump with more confidence with a firmer footing. Whether it’s enough to make such a big horse slick enough is another matter.
He’s come on quite a bit since that defeat, don’t you think? Otherwise, it was a pretty risky, yard-driven plunge from 8s to 11/4.
He’s come on quite a bit since that defeat, don’t you think? Otherwise, it was a pretty risky, yard-driven plunge from 8s to 11/4.
Yes, he has improved but I think the plunge was all about the conditions and the prospect of getting a relatively easy lead. Irish horse was a big doubt on the ground and I thought the ground allied to plenty of racing could do for Geordie Des Champs. Gayebury was the other one who was likely to handle conditions.
Pauling stated afterwards he was fine to keep him over today’s trip for the time being..
BATTLEFORD declared in a 2m 7f novice event at Thurles on 19th Jan. This could point to him going the AB and INVITATION ONLY going Neptune. Just a thought
Why is he going to jump better on better ground? The only time he has raced on good ground he was hammered by Get On The Yager.
Racing on it and jumping off it two different things. Any horse would jump with more confidence with a firmer footing. Whether it’s enough to make such a big horse slick enough is another matter.
Some horses jump better when it’s soft.
Weird thing to say for someone so experienced in the game, Joe.
Why is he going to jump better on better ground? The only time he has raced on good ground he was hammered by Get On The Yager.
Racing on it and jumping off it two different things. Any horse would jump with more confidence with a firmer footing. Whether it’s enough to make such a big horse slick enough is another matter.
Some horses jump better when it’s soft.
Weird thing to say for someone so experienced in the game, Joe.
I’ve a healthy respect for your opinion, Mark. It would make a nice debate but don’t want to derail the thread. I’ll maybe start a thread on horse racing.
Willoughby Court impressing the handicapper with a rise of 17lbs. Sportinglife points out that Barters Hill (same trainer) was in this Neptune/A Bartlett speculation position at this time last year (went AB).
My late night snaffling session has yielded Pylonthepressure at 280s + 290s and Ami Debois at 130s-180s. I make Ami Debois a very likely runner.
Bit confused to see Wholestone declared over 2m 4f at Cheltenham tomorrow, but I have absolutely no doubt that this is the race for him. The same owner has Messire Des Obeaux for the Neptune.
This Neptune trial is actually a good pointer for the Albert Bartlett, Zarkava.
Wichita Lineman, At Fishers Cross and Bobs Worth all won it en route to victory in the 3 miler.
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