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Let BI hit the front -then hes hard to pass – but get in front of him – then he doesnt find it easy to get past
The likely quick pace at cheltenham will mean that BI will be pushed along relatively early on and simply (as with today) not get in front of HE or DC
I still think MJ finds Cheltenham a tricky track…but after that….
There was an interesting interview with McCoy on RTE after the race and he seemed more than positive at the thoughts blinkers might be applied to Brave Inca to help him travel. I wonder after this defeat will connections look at that option even closer now.
ive often wondered why they dont put blinkers on BI. but being as that was his last race before the champion i cant see him sporting first time blinkers in the champion, just incase he hates them. wouldnt of been a bad idea to have had them on today, although i dont think he would have got past hardy today anyway
Grasshopper – by overrated I mean he is not quite in the same league as BI or HE, even by one length – he doesn’t have the "killer instinct" that they have. I don’t see where he is EVER going to find that length from now – 2years ago yes but not now. And given the way BI races, who could argue that BI wouldn’t find another length. That consistent one length for me means that I could never really fancy him against BI. Personally, I find it hard to treat Punchestown (or even Aintree) as anything more than afterthoughts for a lot of Cheltenham winners so that’s why I said MJ hasn’t won a signifcant race in 2 years. That year was MJ’s best chance to win a Champion Hdl IMO.
So do we all agree that if Brave Inca/ Hardy Eustace/ or Detroit City is in front after jumping the last they will win the race ie none of those horses will let another pass it?
Quote: from FlatSeasonLover on 9:24 pm on Jan. 28, 2007[br]So do we all agree that if Brave Inca/ Hardy Eustace/ or Detroit City is in front after jumping the last they will win the race ie none of those horses will let another pass it?<br>
<br>No. I think Detroit City will quicken past from the last. However gutsy a horse is if they haven’t got the gears of another theres not a lot they can do.
It is very hard to call for the CH. The 4 pricipals are that closely matched, that it will really depend on which horse has had the best prep or even which one is spot on for the day. That is something us punters cannot find out. I doubt anyone can. Prob best not to go in too heavy in this race. Maybe do a few combination tricasts or something like that.<br>It is one to savour. Lets hope they all get there sound.
Just a note on Asian Maze. Segal put the mockers on her by tipping her up. However I did mention on that thread that I would be very very reluctant to back a mare having run so bad previously. I dont think there are any excuses. She has maybe gone a bit sour dare I say. Deffo needs a step up in trip. Cant live with the cream of the 2m div.
(Edited by aston at 9:42 am on Jan. 29, 2007)
I would happily leave BI out of calculations. Would appear that HE was expected to come on for the run (thus market drift) from Dessies comments whereas BI was as close to fitness as can be. Hard to see how he can reverse form at a course HE loves so much
Quote: from aston on 9:37 am on Jan. 29, 2007[br]It is very hard to call for the CH. The 4 pricipals are that closely matched, that it will really depend on which horse has had the best prep or even which one is spot on for the day. That is something us punters cannot find out. I doubt anyone can. Prob best not to go in too heavy in this race. Maybe do a few combination tricasts or something like that.<br>It is one to savour. Lets hope they all get there sound.
Just a note on Asian Maze. Segal put the mockers on her by tipping her up. However I did mention on that thread that I would be very very reluctant to back a mare having run so bad previously. I dont think there are any excuses. She has maybe gone a bit sour dare I say. Deffo needs a step up in trip. Cant live with the cream of the 2m div.
(Edited by aston at 9:42 am on Jan. 29, 2007)<br>
Asian Maze didnt run her race as like you I feel she would be best at a 2 and a half but she shouldnt be getting detached at half way like she was yesterday. I hate to say it but she looked like she was a bit sour. Anything reported by the Mullins??
As regards the DC and HE debate. The problem with the International is that it looked like a typical example of an exercise gallop whereby the leader jumped the chasing horse only to closed down closer to the finish. It happens everyday on the gallops. That said, nothing about the run suggests DC cant win the champion.
Nobody is mentioning Harchibald??
SHL
Quote: from dave 22 on 4:24 pm on Jan. 28, 2007[br]the thing about detroit city is he can cruise at high speed and then really lengthen his stride and take lengths out of the field it seconds, whereas HE and BI grind out there rivals and i think the young grey will have just to many gears for them. but i think the champion hurdle will be the race of the season<br>
Dave,
I must have been watching a different Triumph hurdle than you last year. DC was been scubbed along way before the top of the hill, I do agree he has tonnes of stamina, but no way does he have a high cruising speed. If you are looking for a horse with a high cruising speed, look at previous runs of Rooster Booster and Harchibald, that cruising speed….
JohnJ.
Of course BI can’t be left out of calculations Aidan. We get this every year from Clivex. He doesnt like the horse, which has obviously cost him a few quid down the years, as he keeps taking him on at chelters.
For the very obvious reason that HE at this point is in front of him. When undercooked too
There have been no excuses for BI’s defeat.
This is where we are.
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