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  • #36818
    clivex
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    its easy to leave him out of calculations…because, given the market,  its time to make a decision

    HE longer than BI despite comfortable win

    <br>I still believe that DC could prove to be an exceptional hurdler but the 5/1 HE has to be taken

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    Quote: from Salselon on 11:52 am on Jan. 29, 2007[br]Agree about Harchibald.

    Think he’s great value at current BF odds..<br>

    No one else see the irony in a poster called Salselon thinking Harchibald is a good bet :)

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    Quote: from Aidan on 4:15 pm on Jan. 29, 2007[br] There is very little between the top 3 Irish horses…impossible to rule any of them out.<br>

    <br>Spot on Aidan,

    "fresh" horse won yesterday, give Brace Inca a little  break, Macs Joy another prep and there will  be very little between em come March

    #36821
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    Empty…i think you need to take heed of dessie hughe’s comments. (which may have been supported by the market)

    The fittest horse finished second

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    Though I still can’t believe he did it  , Hardy Eustace beat Brave Inca at his own game yesterday, and I can see no possible reason why it won’t be the same come the festival. Three times BI came at him, and 3 times he beat him off. <br>Up until the race yesterday, I was convinced that Hardy Eustace would never be a factor in the Champion Hurdle again, I was obviously wrong, but it also puts Detroit City in a different perspective. <br>He beat HE fair and square at Cheltenham, off a pace that inconvenienced both equally, and the pounds/lengths handicappers that decry the form because of the proximity of Crow Wood need to think again, imo.<br>Both principals are strong galloping types, so the way they surged away from the nippier Crow Wood in the sprint up the straight says much more about the class gulf than the 10l distance could ever do justice to.<br>I see no justifiable reason, slow pace apart, to suspect that either horse ran below form that day, and with DC having more scope to better that run, he thoroughly deserves his place at the head of the market.<br>Imo, of course.<br>

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    Clive

    One horse had two "no" races, one horse had given it’s all previously and one horse was FTO

    <br>I don’t think i need a trainer to tell me anything

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    Hady Eustace  had not raced anything until yesterday and you saw the result,

    forget the run behind DC

    <br>That race is not worth jack sh1te

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    Quote: from empty wallet on 5:34 pm on Jan. 29, 2007[br]

    Hady Eustace  had not raced anything until yesterday and you saw the result,

    forget the run behind DC

    <br>That race is not worth jack sh1te

    EW<br> It’s difficult to argue against that kind of logic???;)  

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    reet

    <br>Stick to reading formbook wrong way up mate instead of trying to take p**s

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    Clutching at Straw?

    What the feck are you on about trackside, HE is fav to win CH imo, but for anyone to write off BI or Macs Joy on yesterdays race is just foolish as Aidan has rightly said

    Different day, different race as they say

    (Edited by empty wallet at 8:15 pm on Jan. 29, 2007)

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    Ahh, with yer trackside, my apologies

    <br>I’m  not sure about that, don’t forget BI has been running his races whereas imo,up to yesterday HE hadn’t so he was "fresher" than BI and Macs Joy needed it.

    i think Macs Joy will just fall short but you could argue that when all horses go to Chelters "fresh" there would not be yesterday distances between em and as Aidan sort of says it may come down to how they all jump the last hurdle

    (Edited by empty wallet at 8:24 pm on Jan. 29, 2007)

    #36829
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    EW…apart from the fact that you clearly think DC is a "nothing" horse, do you really think its worthwhile ignoring dessie hughes assessment of HE?

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    Clive

    I tend to not listen to ANY trainer or jockey tbh, taking what they say with a pinch of salt and form my OWN opinions on what i read in the formbook, see on TV

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    So if Nichols or king said "such and such needed the race"…you would ignore that?

    Come on now…

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    Quote: from trackside528 on 8:17 pm on Jan. 29, 2007[br]

    BTW, surely you rate Lounaos a good thing in the Triumph..<br>

    <br>Not a race i’ve really looked at trackside tvh, but on yesterdays run you’d probably say so

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    Quote: from clivex on 8:28 pm on Jan. 29, 2007[br]So if Nichols or king said "such and such needed the race"…you would ignore that?

    Come on now… <br>

    <br>No Clivex, you come on

    <br>Do not treat me like a fecking muppet, as stated i use the formbook and my eyes

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    Everytime Azertyuiop got beat by Moscow he seemed to "need the run"….

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