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  • #1753977
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    I imagine that took 20 mins to write …you,d have to stop to laugh between words

    #1753982
    Avatar photoWilts
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    McSweeney is/was Labour’s Cummins :whistle:

    Probably resurface at some Left-wing think tank. Plug-in the same failed ideas. ;-)

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    Imagine if the boot was on the other foot and a Conservative Prime Minister had appointed a friend who was best buddy with a convicted paedophile to be Ambassador to the USA and then admitted he knew that individual maintained a cosy friendship even after the offender had been convicted.

    Does anyone believe Starmer wouldn’t have done his pious and high and mighty routine, saddling up his moral high horse and demanding the Prime Minister’s immediate resignation?

    But it is a different story when he is Prime Minister. All of a sudden it is someone else’s responsibility.

    Advisers advise, ministers decide. A strong Prime Minister owns their decisions, good and bad. Blaming officials only serves to further demonstrate his weakness.

    Starmer is doing the country and his party no good by desperately trying to continue. He should step aside now, rather than be forced out after the by-election or the local elections.

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    I was hoping for some stability after 6 PMs in the last 10 years but this is now looking like 7.

    Unfortunately Starmer has to go and the sooner the better. Who replaces him is another question. We’ve got to keep Farage out of number 10.

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    It would be impossible to replace him with anyone else that has such a good relationship with other world leaders.

    #1754005
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    This all goes back to Cameron being so scared of Farage that he called the referendum and then Johnson getting rid of the decent people in his party and destroying it. Along with Corbyn making his party unelectable. And we’re facing the thought of a country governed by currently unknown Reform MP’s and ex Conservative MP’s that have, at times been sacked for political misdemeanours. Heaven help us….

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    “This all goes back to Cameron being so scared of Farage that he called the referendum and then Johnson……….”

    What has this got to do with this Starmer thread? :scratch:

    Starmer will resign v soon; possibly this week – this particular ‘buck’ stops with him.

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    I’m not sure he will , they’ll hope with today’s resignation for things to quieten down , however all hell will break lose after The council elections

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    “This all goes back to Cameron being so scared of Farage that he called the referendum and then Johnson……….”

    What has this got to do with this Starmer thread? :scratch:

    Starmer will resign v soon; possibly this week – this particular ‘buck’ stops with him.”
    I was refer back to what Homer said. No Ned to be quite so rude…

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    “Probably resurface at some Left-wing think tank.”

    This comment just goes to show how deluded the RWNJ are.

    If you honestly believe that McSweeney is in any way “left-wing”, you must be to the right of Pol Pot.

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    “I’m not sure he will , they’ll hope with today’s resignation for things to quieten down”.

    That doesn’t seem likely. Several Labour MPs are still calling for Starmer to go, as are some trade unions leaders.

    If Rayner didn’t have the HMRC investigation hanging over her, or if Burnham was in the Commons, or if Streeting wasn’t preoccupied with frantically deleting all links with Mandelson from his social media profiles, the likelihood is Starmer would already have been challenged by now.

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    Does anyone believe Starmer wouldn’t have done his pious and high and mighty routine, saddling up his moral high horse and demanding the Prime Minister’s immediate resignation?
    No but let’s also not pretend that the reaction of the media would be exactly the same as it is now. When the Tories were in power it was always somebody else’s fault. Numerous examples of the party itself and their press chums blaming anyone but themselves when things went wrong. I think it was the ‘left wing financial markets’ that were at fault at one point.

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    Worth noting by the way that Mandelson’s appointment was welcomed at the time by many outside Labour. The same people who are now aghast that such a thing could have happened with all this information about him that was in the public domain.

    #1754030
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    You have to pick the right time to challenge , after the council elections is prime esp if Labour mps are spooked by the results…

    #1754031
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    If Starmer goes now does that mean Rachel Reeves takes over as interim PM?

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    I believe there are no hard fast rules even the Deputy Prime Minister and Deputy Leader aren’t automatically entitled to step in.

    The more I know the less I understand.

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    When Theresa May announced her intention to resign, she limped on until her successor was chosen.

    If Starmer does go, Reeves will not survive as Chancellor. If Rayner gets the job, Reeves won’t even be in the Cabinet.

    It is an open secret that Rayner feels aggrieved at having to resign over a property issue, while Reeves stayed in post even after it was revealed she had been letting out a flat illegally.

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