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Yes, just read the Gosden comments
The dam’s side of the pedigree has more stamina and the way he won the race was encouraging as it’s not as if he started at 5f. Scat Daddy hasn’t got a flood of decent milers as offspring but you can get exceptions from all stallions
I’m not totally convinced as yet as it’s early days and plenty of horses to hit the track but can afford a few quid to bet365 for the guineas especially being 20’s not much to lose and 20x the stake if proving the next Kingman. How that one never won the guineas is still a mystery.Blackbeard to conquer the World
If Legends Of War wins the Coventry he will be 8/1 at best for the Guineas.
Maybe some other firms will offer odds soon.
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Cape Of Good Hope makes his debut at Leopardstown this evening, in what seems the first 7F race of the season for 2YOs.
Betting is tight between him and Ger Lyons’ California Daddy, who ran behind Van Beethoven last time. Both are about 7/4 in a race where the remainder are a fair bit bigger odds.
Although Ger’s son of Scat Daddy has the advantage of a run, he was beaten more than 3 lengths by Van Beethoven and it’s a guessing game where Cape Of Good Hope, the full brother to Highland Reel, sits compared to Van Beethoven.
Just a race to watch but a win for Cape Of Good Hope will surely see quotes for big races next year.
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Just Wonderful looks full of promise. The majority of the O’Brien 2y/o’s have need the debut run and this drifted out in the market. travelled well and look it up long enough out. Was green late on bumping into the rail before drifting towards the middle of the course. Will improve alot for the run and will have no problems stepping up in trip. I’d imagine she’ll turn up at Royal Ascot
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O’Brien saying Albany for Just Wonderful
Dansli out of Wading
I remember backing Wading for her 1000 guineas Ante Post and she seemed to disappear off the face of the world..
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Any views on Bold Approach guys and other 2yos seen at weekend
Steve any early views on any Wesley Ward 2yos might come over to Ascot.
Cape Of Good Hope made a moderate debut in 7th but he’s a late foal with the wrong sort of pedigree to be tearing trees up this season. I’d like to have seen a little more from him and I am a bit surprised he was out this soon, given that he only turned 2YO three weeks ago.
Mark Johnston had a nice winner with Natalie’s Joy at Goodwood. The daughter of Lope De Vega came home six lengths clear and recorded a good figure of 90 on Topspeed. I don’t have her RPR yet but I expect it to be decent. The winning jockey hinted that Royal Ascot was next for the filly.
I didn’t see Bold Approach yet and will catch up on him later.
The Wesley Ward horses have been hard to track down replays on. I read that at the Keeneland meeting that launched Lady Aurelia, Ward saw his first two youngster’s beat but that he went on to land every one of the other TEN 2YO races at the meeting. It’s bad enough just trying to find the results for these races, never
mind the replays but I’ll keep an eye out.Some of Wesley’s winners were:-
Mucho Amor
Stillwater Cove
Shang Shang Shang
What The LuckIt was stated that some of these early season runners may go to Royal Ascot.
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Pride Of Brittany made an easy winning start for Jean-Claude Rouget at Saint-Cloud today.
The daughter of Invincible Spirit was soon at the head of affairs and coming into the closing stages she was going best out in front. She soon established a winning lead and was merely pushed out to win slightly eased down by two and a half lengths.
Sent off a 14/5 Fav backers never had a moment’s concern and she looked above average to my eyes at the 6F trip. Worth keeping an eye on.
Race replay:-
http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/race-replays/2/3239/
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Clive Cox’s Heartwarming makes her debut at Nottingham Wed 30th May. Related to Heartache, the Showcasing filly is well tipped up tomorrow and can be backed at 7/2 behind the narrow favourite Capla Rock, who is the filly who shares the tips for the race after her debut 3rd at the track. The rating of 74 she obtained then may need to be improved up to score this time.
Heartwarming probably needs to score here to follow her relation to Royal Ascot.
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Heartwarming is the one for money. Generally 7/4 now from 7/2 so it looks like there is confidence behind her.
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Heartwarming a Non runner after the rains.
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Calyx (son of Kingman) looked pretty smart just now at Newmarket. Looked a bit awkward with his head carriage but was speedy enough on debut, cruising up to a previous winner before putting the race to bed within a matter of strides. Reckon a noseband will be fitted not before too long.
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Terrific start for Calyx and he beat a RPR rated 80 into second by 5 lengths.
Gosden clearly has two very much above average colts in Legends Of War and Calyx already this season. Both horses look Group material.
Calyx must have scope to do a good bit better than this after running with his head to one side and he travelled strongly through the line, suggesting he’ll have no problems with 7F.
I was impressed enough to take 25/1 with Ladbrokes for next year’s 2000 Guineas. I can see him lining up for the Dewhurst this season and it will take some showing to make a bigger impression than this fine looking colt from a sire who was imperious himself.
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Steve any views on Chesham next week normaly a weak race but last 2 years seen a 2000 guineas winner in Churchill and Masar ran in race last year off to win derby.
As said in thread i like BEYOND REASON her and Angels Hideaway were horses take out from debut race even though New Winds got beat.And think she got good chance next week
Hills got a market for derby and am on DESERT ISLAND a horse by Australia also Peeping Fawn horse had a mention 6months ago to been talked about a bit when 1m maidens happen one to keep eye on.Godzilla other horse in market with Sydney Oprea House that horse related to Reklinding so more of a stayer
South pacific out soon, hopefully one to keep an eye on, by galileo out of a linamix mare
Surely a better place for this thread.
What are views on 2yo races seen at Ascot so Calyx was very good winner and hope he can stay 1m look like Prix morny next and true not normally a 2000 guineas route though Special Duty and Canford Cliffs ran in race won classics year later.Irish classic for CC
While there a shock in Queen mary yesterday
And hope Konchek can win Norfolk today for me unlucky at Sandown and hope return to winning ways
South pacific out soon, hopefully one to keep an eye on, by galileo out of a linamix mare
Surely a better place for this thread.
Sad that there is no interest in the young horses. Probably not helping that it is dumped into the depths of the forum. It’s hardly as if the main areas are “Hoachin'” with busy threads.
South Pacific made his debut at Tipperary this evening but made little impact, 4th of five runners behind winner Cape Of Good Hope. He was very green but the winner won pretty comfortably and was coming in rated 71 after two previous runs, so it looks a limited bit of form at the moment.
Just a couple to mention to try to keep the thread alive:-
PEACH TREE (Galileo-Pikaboo)
Only fifth on debut, as it took ages for the penny to drop. Typical Galileo filly for O’Brien coming on a ton from 1st run and made pretty much all to win next time, kicking away from the front and looking like winning it by a fair way, before the second filly finished well to narrow the gap to half a length.
Peach Tree looks to be a fair bit short of the finished article and didn’t look fully tuned on her second start. She seems likely to fill out with time and I like the way she moves, with a light, flowing action that should allow her to float along on a sound surface.
Peach Tree is a full sister to Flattering, the 3YO filly fancied by some for decent races at 3YO this season and she is a half sister to George Margason’s Lucky Kristale, who won the old Cherry Hinton at 2YO and followed up in Lowther at York. Lucky Kristale seemed to lose her way when tried at a mile as a 3YO but Peach Tree should get a mile, having won a 7F already and being by Galileo.
Entered in the Moyglare, perhaps Peach Tree may come forward more than some of the Ballydoyle fillies by September. The worry might be how she will handle any cut. On Racing Post figures she improved 25 lbs from run 1 to run 2 and a couple of firms have her in the 1000 Guineas betting. The trainer said she will stick to fillies races and stated he was delighted how much she had come forward from her first start, adding that she would stay a mile.
U S S MICHIGAN (War Front-Photograph)
The other one to catch my eye on Irish Derby week was the War Front colt U S S Michigan who was less fancied than warm favourite Mount Tabora for the Coolmore moguls. I was not as impressed with the Scat Daddy colt as I was with U S S Michigan in terms of physique but the latter could have been expected to need more time given the way he ran.
U S S Michigan is a big colt who is all legs and he was really green in the early stages of the race. Seemingly having little clue as to how to best get optimum speed from his big frame, I felt he might fall into a hole in the closing stages but he kept on well and I thought he might win it. The second favourite for the race, Bated Breath filly Viadera, trained by Ger Lyons, finished really well though, to pass the opposition and win the race, leaving U S S Michigan in second place, beaten half a length with favourite Mount Tabora in 5th place.
I felt U S S Michigan had run a cracking race, given his physique and inexperience, a big P for improvement looks assured to my eyes anyway. Given how long it took fellow War Front son US Navy Flag to find his way into the winners enclosure it looked an excellent starting effort from U S S Michigan and he earned a RPR of 88 in conceding 5 lbs to the filly.
U S S Michigan’s breeding is a bit unusual, in that the Dam has only ever been bred with War Front thus far and U S S Michigan is the 4th of that combination of parents. Perhaps some will recall full brother George Patton, who made a good start for Jean-Claude Rouget and was once rumoured to be the best 3YO in the yard. Narrowly beaten by Zarak in the trial for the French Guineas he was then 4th in the Group 1 race itself behind runaway winner The Gurkha. He suffered a few setbacks and ended up in Australia.
The other three full siblings all started out with Jean-Claude Rouget and it will be interesting to see how U S S Michigan (Named after a nuclear submarine) comes forward for O’Brien. Normal improvement would see him hit three figures on his next start and be looking to step up into pattern company 3rd time out.
Entered in the Phoenix and National Stakes, those Group 1 races may prove beyond him but he looks sure to progress well from his 1st start.
Peach Tree’s run:-
http://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-replay-overlay/VOD/1047520
U S S Michigan’s run:-
http://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-replay-overlay/VOD/1047904
Hopefully of interest to some readers.
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