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    First part of The Autumn Double, and just the 134 entries to sift through.

    Spark Plug is in there again, and after last years heroics, I would love to see him land it, but life will be tougher here off of 6lbs higher, but it certainly ain’t beyond him.

    On his Newbury form from April, the Luca Cumani trained Banksea must have a live chance, but he does have a rather tame effort in The Hunt Cup to forgive. Nonetheless he looks a contender.

    You have to go a long way back to make a case for Battle of Marathon, but his third in last years Lincoln does give him an outside squeak, though even a quick glance would suggest he requires a leap of faith. He’s priced accordingly at 50’s, but he’s been dropped a serious amount since his last run, and that makes him worthy of a mention here I reckon.

    Talking of The Lincoln, this years winner, Bravery, looks massively overpriced at 40’s. If you check out his last run at Goodwood, where he had the burden of my cash, he looked to be doing plenty right, and though eventually finishing 9th, he was immediate “notebook” material. Already lower than the mark he won off of at Doncaster a few months back, he’s definite shortlist material.

    That Goodwood race was “won” by Dark Red, and though he lost it in the stewards room, for only a 4lb rise, he looks treated well enough to land a blow here.

    From the Charlie Fellowes yard, Chiefofchiefs has caught the eye this year. Yes, his last run wasn’t the best, and he’d be relativelty inexperienced for something like this, he still looks as if he could be an interesting outsider on the day, should he scrape in.

    El Hayem was a very nice winner at Sandown last time, and he’s a very interesting runner at York tomorrow. He looks very well weighted, at this moment, but obviously one to hold off on, until tomorrow at the very least. Right now, he’s a very big 20’s.

    Behind El Hayem at Sandown, was my old pal G M Hopkins. Had no luck in this last year, but I think, despite being a relative disappointment in The Betfred Mile, I think that Sandown run is an accurate reflection of where he’s at, and I suppose you could argue that he didn’t get the best of runs at Goodwood anyway. Possibly just a shade high in the weights on what he’s done recently, but the mark isn’t beyond him, and I think he comes here with a very similar profile to last years winner, Spark Plug.

    The Iain Jardine trained Hibou, would be a relative unnkown here, but he’s worth checking out. Another who’s recently had the burden of my cash on him, but wins at Hamilton, and a place at a very nice price at Galway, shows that that hasn’t been enough to stop him. He only found a Mullins hotpot too good for him last time. He’ll probably need a bit of juice in the ground, but he’s a smart prospect when he gets his conditions, so if you do a raindance, then that 33’s is massive.

    Like Hibou, I suspect that Isomer might need the a bit of rain, but despite being another with not much miles on the clock, I did think he looked a decent prospect last year, and I wouldn’t be in a rush to write him off too early.

    I love Master The World, not least due to the favour he did me in The Betfred Mile, and despite the nature of that win, I think he won with a bit in hand, he’s not looking that badly treated here. He looked as good as ever in a hot little Group 3 at Salisbury last week, and he had absolutely no luck in running, getting into a pocket. The winner that day, Ballet Concerto, is a serious horse too, but it was Master The Worlds race to lose, and with a better ride, would have won (not pocket talk) so he must be given serious consideration here again. I might just desert him this time, but I’ll be delighted to see him do it.

    Mythical Madness was behind Master The World that day, but he ran better than his position suggested, and there’s no way he deserves to be as big as 66’s.

    I like Jim Goldie raiders in these big handicaps, and Nicholas T fit’s the bill here. I’ve mentioned him a few times already, and he was always going to be on my radar for this, not least off the back of his last run at Ascot. Another who’s on the shortlist.

    UAE Prince is a fairly consistent type, and he catches the eye here with the drop down in trip, that could just be the making of him, and no surprise to see him near the head of the market.

    The Kevin Ryan trained Weekend Offender is coming along nicely, and I don’t think we’ve seen the last of his improvement. Versatile trip wise, and this race looks right up his street. I thought he’d be bigger than 20’s, and clearly the firms that have priced it up, also like the look of him.

    Loads to chew over then, but the 2 I wanted to see in there, are both, indeed, in there, and I can’t resist early plays on Belgian Bill & Dolphin Vista. This is an extremely risky approach, as both have caught me out in the past with my AP cash on them. Belgian Bill was a late withdrawal from The Betfred Mile, while Dolphin Vista caught me out in this last year.

    Risky then, but they’re both at smashing prices. Belgian Bill is a particular favourite of mine, and I was just delighted to see him getting a (very) rare trot out over 7 furlongs on Saturday, and not surprisingly, he was out of the frame. I think “there’s life in the old dog yet”, and I was hoping he’d get dropped a pound, maybe two, but he got dropped 4, and that’s enough for me. 50’s is massive.

    40’s for Dolphin Vista is also massive. He should have won The Lincoln this year (this is pocket talk lol), and with a few pounds taken off him, I just have to be with him again. He’s won over 1 mile 2, but I think a mile his best trip, and I’m hoping that Martyn Meade, who he’s recently moved to, targets him for this.

    Clearly, it would be madness to have a serious go at this stage in a race like this, but I really do like this pair, and they would be my main fancies, so I’ve had a few quid on. Plenty mentioned already (and obviously dozens who I haven’t mentioned) who look to have equally good chances, so that should be more than enough, but as this is a race I would have 3 on the day, I’m sticking my neck out, and having 3 Ante-Post, which could be plain daft, but I’m giving it a bash.

    I’ll top up should they go bigger, either with the books, or on the exchanges, but these are the 3 for me at the moment, and I’ve covered the 5 places….

    Belgian Bill 50’s
    Bravery 40’s
    Dolphin Vista 40’s

    GL

    #1315096
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    Thanks for starting the thread VTC, backed El Hayem @ 20’s

    GL with yours :yes:

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    No probs Botchy. Good luck with El Hayem. I think that GM Hopkins was my only bet that day when he beat him, and I like the way he did it.

    #1315215
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    Not look at entries yet bob in this or the ces but any unexposed 3yos see going well here or in ces.

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    Obviously a lot more 3yo’s in this than Cesarewitch, and I thought the pick looked like Isomer, though Fire Brigade caught the eye as well. There’s bloody loads of them though.

    In The Cesarewitch, the 3yo that got my attention was Winston C.

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    time of it just now, and has a 30% strike rate the last fortnight, and the obvious highlight being Nakeeta in the big one yesterday.

    Hibou runs at The Curragh today, and with rain forecast, should be the chance to see him in a good light. I’ve had a go on him at 12’s today, and hoping the 6 places should get me a return, but I’ve had to leave him alone for this, as unless I was going to do a book, I can’t bet them all.

    I really like this horse, and though you couldn’t be guaranteeing soft ground at Newmarket, you can still get 40’s on him 5 places with Bet365 for this, and I think that’s a very fair price for him.

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    Cracking analysis!

    This is a race I’ve done well in recently having backed Bronze Angel (twice) and Spark Plug last year but it’s not one I’m going to have a bet in just yet. There are a few I like the chances of though.

    Chelsea Lad, George William and Greenside are horses I’m willing to give a couple more chances to. They all look to have further improvement in them and this niche distance could suit. Contrapposto would be an interesting runner if lining up having not been seen since finishing last in the Dante. That effort came off the back of a cracking effort behind Eminent in the Craven. Sharja Bridge is another that would be intriguing should Mr Varian decide to run a thrice raced 3 year old in such a competitive race. He’d not be certain to get in but looks to be a very nice horse for the future indeed after his easy victory at Nottingham. Laidback Romeo is still lightly raced for a 5 year old and seems to be progressing with age and racing. If conditions came up quick I’d like to keep him on side given his style of racing. Leshlaa has decent form on the course and has shown to be able to handle the hustle of a big field when finishing a game 5th in the Britannia. He looks to be a type his trainer does well with in these sorts of races. Raising Sand finally showed what he is capable off at Ascot after a harsh season. He’s been bonked up 6 pounds for that victory but it seems a fair rise and looks ideal for this test. And Victory Bond still can’t be written off even if the handicapper is of the opinion this is a Group horse in the making.

    That’s my early thinking and I’d be surprised if at least 3 of them don’t end up on my little sheet of crinkled paper come 30th September.

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    Cheers Charles.

    Good luck when you finalise the plans, and I’m no stranger to those little pieces of crinkled paper myself lol

    No joy with Hibou today, but I still think should the heavens open, he’s worth considering for this.

    #1316942
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    Obviously a lot more 3yo’s in this than Cesarewitch, and I thought the pick looked like Isomer, though Fire Brigade caught the eye as well. There’s bloody loads of them though.

    He looks like a nice type Venture and s bit of a shame that we are unlikely to see him in this.

    I have bet one in this, Eddystone Rock at 25-1 each way. Considering how he ran at York + the mark he will run off here, I think 25-1 is worth a crack

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    Yeah Buckers, nice horse, and one I’ve got an eye on for the future for sure, really like him. Haven’t seen his race today, but looks from the comments that he ran very well.

    Good luck with Eddy

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    Bronze Angel ran a very pleasing race yesterday on his return to action. He’ll surely head to Newmarket now to try and claim his 3rd Cambridgeshire and I couldn’t resist a sly nibble at 50/1 with Paddy Power.

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    Good luck with him Charles, I’m sure I had a long look at him last year, might even have had him, but I totally agree, this is the race for him (obviously lol) and I think he’ll be tuned up nicely. Smashing horse, always liked him.

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    I’ve been keen on Eddystone Rock and Euginio for this for a few weeks. I’m slightly concerned both are entered up at Newbury this weekend, and I’m hoping both sidestep their engagements in favour of a run at Newmarket.

    Eddystone Rock was my pick last year for Murtagh before he got injured and I thought this might have been the plan ever since. If he doesn’t get wound up for this in particular I’d be very disappointed.

    Euginio is a late developing horse but with plenty potential. Been keen on him since watching him finish 5th to Thundering Blue. He was getting going that day and took a big bump and still ran on. His effort at Doncaster was very encouraging, he quickened up well there to get in front and I think the straight track will suit him.

    On both at 33s and gutted if both don’t run.

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    Hate that feeling Nulty, when you have a horse lined up, only to see it entered up for alternative targets before your own target for them. Fingers crossed for you that at least one of them swerved Newbury.

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    I like Big Country as an improving 4YO. He started his winning in a maiden when he was rated 75 and has won twice since. He was then second to Michael Stoute’s Ballet Concerto and that has been well advertised by the winner following up twice since.

    Big Country has worked his way up to 100 now and who is to say that he won’t have further improvement to come? Given that Ballet Concerto is rated 118 now, Big Country had a bit on his plate facing off with Stoutie’s horse when he was running off 102 in the old Magnet Cup race at York.

    I reckoned Big Country was worth an early pop at 16/1. He holds an entry in the Doonside Cup at Ayr but that looks a bad call to me, because he will be meeting the leading two in the betting on 10 and 12 lbs worse terms than he would in a handicap. He’ll either have to have improved a chunk, or hope they have an off day.

    I may pick another one later but Big Country was my first arrow.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Top stuff as per the norm Bobby :good: :good:

    However and it is a moot point I have narrowed it down to four at the minute and NON of them are on your list!! I am not sure whether that is a good thing or not!! :wacko: :wacko:

    First up for me is agreeing with Steve on BIG COUNTRY who won nicely at York and then ran well again at York with a not getting home run at Haydock sandwiched in between. My only doubt about him being the trip. Is it far enough?

    Secondly I have to mention LINGUISTIC who has only ran once this year and finished second to Absolute Blast on the all weather but last year was only 7/1 to win the Kind Edward VII at Royal Ascot.

    Thirdly another Godolphin horse YATTWEE who beat some decent horses on his only run this season and he gets the trip the price is huge!

    Finally QASSEM who has ran three solid races in handicaps this year and to me looks like this trip will be his optimum!!
    At the prices BIG COUNTRY 14/1 LINGUISTIC 25/1 QASSEM 20/1 YATTWEE 33/1

    I may wait til Tuesday for the five days before having a serious bet but have only had small amounts each way on them so far :good: :good:

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    I’m going to back Bravery in this now 3lb lower than winning the Lincoln. Don’t think the extra furlong will be a problem and has a touch of class on his day.

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