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  • #1692452
    Avatar photoTriptych
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    Now my Godolphin horse Ancient Wisdom is a non runner I am taking two against the field each way…

    Iberian- 20/1 – EW
    Hoping he’s wintered well and there’s not too much rain.

    and …

    Ten Bob Tony – 50/1 – EW
    Flashy chestnut, 4 white legs and a big white blaze..no trouble spotting him.
    He stayed on nicely last time out on the course and should get the extra furlong. Up in grade and definitely up against it but what a great name for a Guineas winner and you have to have a go against the jolly. :yes: Jac

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    “Is something wrong with the horse?” :unsure:

    Working well apparently, had a spin with Haatem the other day

    I think the lack of prep which Hannon is superstitious over and the weather are both negatives for him

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    Best reason for backing Fav is certainly not what he beat as a 2yo or even how spectacularly he beat them. It is the decision not to give him a prep race for the Guineas – presumably because if he was given one he might be 2/11 fav this weekend and a marketing anti-climax would arise. Comments by stable rep at Sandown last weekend on ITV only indicated supreme confidence. Expecting odds to harden from 4/6 to 8/13 after final decs shortly.

    Assuming any showers in the next 48 hours won’t be that heavy and the going will either be on fast side of good or genuinely good or no worse than slow side.

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    If looking at the number of AOB horses who’ve “needed the run” on reappearance this season, Zilzal… you might think differently.

    …Must be a slight negative for me. Although it’s always been the intention to come here fresh and it’s one thing letting horses run in a maiden or handicap or Group 3 short of peak fitness… You’d think AOB would get COT spot on for a Guineas.

    That said, on form COT is imo not far off being a backable price. Especially as the only rival owner with what could be a pacemaker against the front running favourite is Rosallion, who wouldn’t want an overly strong pace anyway – having a slight stamina doubt.

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    I think both Hannon horses are running on their own merits and there will be no collusion – one needs to come from behind while the other seems to prefer to bowl along and that should suit both horses. Assuming decent ground I’m hopeful of a a good run from both.
    🤞🏽

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    he’s won the guineas 10 times all 1st time out. 99% of his horse always need the run 1st out in April and they improve massively from that run. Look back over the yrs and you’ll see the same pattern, the horses that need to be spot on are always ready for the guineas.

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    I agree newyork, in other years many have needed their first run, but fact is it’s even more pronounced this year.

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    Oscar,
    Rossalion’s possible pacemaker is Inisherin, trained by Kevin Ryan who’s under the same ownership.

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    Thanks for that GT
    However I think that the Rosallion camp would be happy for less rather than more initial pace…

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    Initial thoughts without going through the runners were that I must go back and check how often Aidan has only sent 1 to one of the classics, I have a feeling he has a very good record when it happens. The other thing was the wind op for Task Force, massive eyebrow raiser that one. I know they haven’t been declaring wind ops all that long but would you want to breed from a horse that needed a wind op at the age of 3? Doesn’t scream a classic winner to me for all the pedigree is there.

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    City Of Troy looks the obvious choice to win this but is priced accordingly.

    Haatem 33/1 1/5 e/w looks way overpriced for one that won well over C & D on reappearance. He ran plenty of times last year but the time of his seasonal debut was decent and it would be reasonable to presume he has progressed physically. Worth a chance at the odds.

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    Missed the deluge last night, Goodwood had that privilege, there’s going to be something hitting the course tomorrow but they’ll get away with just a 2.5mm fill and some light drizzle on Sat. Source: Michael Fish.

    I have got a few poonds on NIGHT RAIDER @ 40/1 but I don’t think he’ll land a blow. I like TASK FORCE, I’m surprised he’s 22/1 albeit this is a cracking renewal. Can’t see COT being beat so needed to be seduced by an each way price and this one has taken it further by tickling my testicles. Rossa Ryan is fast becoming an Elite jockey too.

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    My point exactly Oscar… Inisherin may well want to make a slower pace for Rosallion, but in that case they won’t want to force Moore on City Of Troy ton go faster. Therefore City Of Troy might get a fairly easy time of it in front – making a pace to suit himself.

    There are a couple of others who made the running last time out – Night Raider and Ten Bob Tony – but they are both going up in trip, so won’t want a strong pace… So again, are less likely to take on City Of Troy in front.

    It will be in City Of Troy’s best interests to set a goodish pace anyway – I was just hoping something would take him on and make it an overly strong pace and favour a hold up horse eg Noble Speech.

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    I was very keen on Task Force, but the wind op and the trainer’s form puts me off… And added to that if it did come even good-soft would be a different surface to his three two year old starts and added needed stamina for a horse that is yet to race beyond 6f. Bred to stay the trip but didn’t fully settle in the Middle Park, so isn’t guaranteed to stay.

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    I’m hoping Ten Bob Tony will be ridden prominently again on Saturday and he could be the one to go with City Of Troy in the early stages. He certainly showed that a mile will suit him when pulling out more to beat Boiling Point last time out and will be watching that one with interest tomorrow.
    Happy with my 50/1 each way on TBT, I think money will come for him to gain a place at least. :rose: Jac

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    #1692587
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    I’m crossing fingers for a convincing display from the favourite to have us dreaming of a triple crown winner.

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    Sean Levey hinted on ITV much more rain Rosallion may not run.

    The more I know the less I understand.

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