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[rory]

I have to stand up for the NH Chase (the 4miler);  it’s been responsible for my first ever Cheltenham bet when Lorcan Wyer made his English debut on Omerta, and my best result when I lumped on Relaxation a couple of years back at a juicy 9/1!

[hobnob]

These are the figures for the fatalities at Aintree (and I got these from the Animal Aid website who aren’t likely to lie about these)<br>2000: 5 during whole meeting, 0 in actual National<br>1999: 4 ”            ”         ”           1 ”   ”           ”<br>1998: 5 ”            ”          ”          4 ”   ”           ”<br>1997: 8 ”            ”          ”          0 ”    ”          ”<br>So I do agree with whoever it was said about the hurdles at Aintree. <br>I can’t remember how many died during the meeting last year but I know there were no fatalities in the National itself.<br>Lets not forget about the origins of steeplechasing – from ‘steeple’ to ‘steeple’ over the countryide. If the Grand National, or indeed any steeplechase is supposed to represent this then of course there are going to be ditches and water jumps. The fences have been modified numerous times over the years and I wouldn’t really want them to get any ‘easier’. Do people want plain fences? The fact that horses like Suny Bay and others are able to complete the course year after year should show that there is no problem with the fences, the problem is the loose horses and the weather. And yes, perhaps the number of horses competing should be reduced to perhaps 20, and there should be stricter rules to say ‘who’ can compete. If it really was as bad as these people seem to make out do you think you would get trainers/owners entering horses, and jockeys wanting to ride in it?<br>But I’m shocked to find that they are able to organise protests like this so publically and no moves are made to stop them. Is this how riots start?<br>

[Seagull]

Keith<br>I cannot understand your logic over this.<br>Lets leave betting alone and take any big company say Tesco’s they know by siting store where they do having the car parks as big as they do stocking the lines they do having cutomer loyalty cards etc etc etc in a way it is all a system as they know rom past results that these things do work. There will be some years where one store might burn down or a reccession where people spend less but overall they are all based on past performance they obviously are looking for new ways of making more money like openeing mini shops in garages 24/7 but they do not after a bad year decide all the methods they have appiled the seasons they have made profits suddenly get ditched!<br>If you apply this thinking to a betting sytem that has done well why should it not continue after a losing spell<br>everyone who bets will have a losing spell,. If you read Gary Wiltshires (the rails bookie) postings on GG.com you will read he also has losing weeks but he knows if he keeps standing at the track overall he will make money that is his system.<br>Even just guessing if thats all someone ever does is still a sysytem although it may not be a good un!

[Matron]

I think MrE gets quite excited about the amount of "doubters" with regards to systems; but he does have a good sense of humour and his postings reflect this.

I think the main point MrE is trying to make is the profitability of "short odds" selections (with either a "rolling double" or even a "rolling treble" staking plan to be utilized to enhance profits.) – but he does like emphasize his point in a forceful manner sometimes. :laugh:

A lot of people consider "short prices" unprofitable in the long term – and certainly that is probably correct to "level stakes". MrE made his point sometime ago on here to reconsider my strategy on staking and he has certainly changed my way of thinking in this area and made my betting a lot more profitable with less risk to the bank.

I use "The Times"(The Beano)  for the "First Favourite" in this section of the forum and MrE uses "The Racing Post" to make his selection so some days we do differ as the stats are not always the same. Which paper to use of the long term? I don’t know, but I guess the results between the two will even out long term.

I suppose at the end of day the "proof is in the pudding", so if I am still posting the "First Favourite" in a years time and it is still in profit long term, I will be very arrogant and say –  "I told you so".:laugh:

Regards – Matron<br>:cool:

[Scotia]

I’m with Ali and Jim on this one.

The National is a great race which attracts not just UK viewers but a world wide audience. Yes the race is full of history so it must never be given up but more improvements should be made to restrict the type of publicity these idiots are putting out and attract more people to the sport. What these idiots want is to be able to say I told you so. JTS says “we must think of the horse firstâ€ÂÂ

[Steve SB]

Mr E – thanks for the reply – no hard feelings – I guess I’d had a bad day – no luck on the horses and then my footy team, who need points desperately, go and let in a last minute equaliser against 9-men (Leicester if you’re interested!).

This is a really interesting thread and shows real promise for systems which is very pleasing.

Seagull’s post was very interesting. I’ve run through my data and sure enough Mr Pipe makes a healthy profit on anything non-handicap at Plumpton. 22 points over the last 2 years which doesn’t sound much but over only 47 runners it’s about a 47% profit on turnover.

Even better is Ascot where he’s made 18 points from 36 rides which is over 50% p.o.t. He’s also made a profit on handicap races at Ascot of 44 points over 63 runners – a 70% p.o.t.

Only downside is that my database is only 2 years which means the samples are a bit small – I’d like to have at least 150 runners if not 200 to be more certain which means 7-8 years of data. Seagull mentions that he has many years of data and things are consistent so that gives more confidence to the results.

My question is why this happens? Is it that certain training methods suit particular courses?

Manny’s ideas were also interesting. A quick look at the system where the horse closest to 10/1 is chosen from any 8-runner, handicap looks to have broken about even over the last 2 years (without some work I could only pick horses at exactly 10/1 in 8-runner handicaps – there may be races where no horses are 10/1, or occasions where more than one horse was 10/1, but it gives an idea. Interestingly if you added the rule that the horse must NOT have won at that course or distance before then the system was about 50 points up since Jan 2000…….).

I also agree with Seagull’s point about money management. Losing runs are unavoidable and even a system with a 30% strike rate will get a lot of losing runs of 10 and over. The key is to have the confidence<br>a) to keep following the system otherwise you will miss the next winner<br>b) not to start changing the rules and betting on things that just don’t quite make it into the system.

As ever, records and self-control! It’s the latter I find most difficult!

In this respect having a mixture of profitable systems on the go would seem the ideal solution.

Anyway, I’m going to try out Daylight’s instructions for posting up graphs – wish me luck…

Steve

[ALI]

I’m not a supporter of the Grand National, i think its barbaric. It degrades horse racing and is an obvious target for the anti’s. I agree with their first point, the death toll for this race is a disgrace, i’m not shure if the figures they give are correct but none the less the Grand National is more of a gauntlet than a race. Half the horses in the race should’nt be, some of them clearly do not stand a chance of completeing the course but are only entered as the owner or trainer would like a runner in the race. The distance is not the big problem here, its the fences and the amount of runners. So what if the course officials ‘are doing their best’ to improve the fences etc. I think some of the comments made after this years National were laughable, people were saying it was great that no horse was injured etc, sounding as if they were almost surprised (it was a near miracle that no horse was killed or injured, lets face it!). The only thing that keeps this race going is the history behind it. If there was no such thing as the Grand National and someone tried to start that race up now, do you think that could happen, would you want it to?

I’d be happy to see the back of this race, i think its a joke, thats my opinion anyway!!!

[Seagull]

If you set up a page on excel and listed the results of every type of race at every track so will see that after every season that some trainers will make an overall profit in that type of race. If you do this for at least three seasons you willl see that there are trainers that can make overall profits in the same type of race at the same track season after season.<br>I have years and years of these stats as I can live solely from this system it works much easier on the N.H.<br>THAN THE FLAT as more trainers in N.H racing can make overall profits at the end of every season.

I was selling a book on the net just doing this I OFFERED A FULL 100% MONEY BACK gurantee that if after a season you were out of pocket I would refund the money in full. That is how confident I am of the system. A racing service now pay me to use the selections and I do not wish to do ANY ADVERTSING so will not mention the name whatsoever.<br>The prob with punters if they go through any losing spell they soon give up and the need to have a bettiung bank is the top of any list and aso patience and discipline they are all free.<br>Lets take M.PIPE for example you will lose overall backing every runner of his but the last sixseasons he has made a onerall profit in every type of non handicap race at Plumpton and the total for the last five seasons is 53 points .The system is basically betting on whether or not the trainer will make an overall profit in the fourth season after already having done so the pervios three. Surely better than just guessing at something!

The method also shows you races where although th trainer may have a short price fav it will be unlikely to win. For example TERRY MILLS trains at Epsom but he went over six season s there without having a winner yet on one day a year ago he had two odds on favs both get beat!<br>N. Henderson had a run of over 50 runners at Aintree without a winner but this season he has done a litle better. Mary Reveley has had nearly 100 runners at Cheletenham with one winner yet last season an odds on runner of hers finished last Oct Mist.<br>what do you think of this method then.<br>It took over 3000 hours inputting just the N.H.  by the way there used to be a book published by M.L. Midgely and he made overall profits for 16 seasons but when he dided I had to do it myself<br>regards<br>

[MrE]

Oh Steve, I forgot to answer that other comment about people who use the same system should select the same horse WITHOUT FAIL…. you are absolutely correct cos its hardly a "system" if you go your own way regardless, but in all fairness in Matrons case, he is using a different paper with a different format. That is not controlable really, thats down to personal preference. When I first was shown the system, it was using the Sporting Life and after that paper disappeared I had to use the Racing Post, it could’ve made a difference, luckily it didn’t, but it shows that even using papers with varying formats, we still both come out winners…… Now thats gotta be the sign of a good sound system…… I hope……   :biggrin: :biggrin:

MrE

[Steve SB]

Mr Killjoy here (see earlier post from MrE)!<br>Thanks Keith the Teeth for the support! You hit the nail on the head – despite what MrE seems to think I am a systems person through and through. I believe it is possible to make money from systems.<br>I’ve spent a lot of time (about 4 years now) collecting data that will enable me to find them and I do have some interesting possibilities which I will share when I’m happy with them.

However I’ve also seen a lot of systems that have worked for 6 months, a year or even longer, and then just collapsed, so I was trying to make the point that you must keep records and monitor things in order to keep in profit.

Darrell’s majestic system is a case in point. He’s had a wonderful few months since he started in the autumn and even won the tipping competition as a result, but running the same system back to the beginning of 2000 shows it to be a long term loser. I reckon since Sept, the system has made over 50pts to level stakes. To the middle of November it was about 80pts, but there was a poor run into December which has now levelled out. However, from Jan 1st 2000 to Sep 2001 I reckon it was down about 350pts!

(Matron/Daylight – is there any way you can put graphs up on the forum – a .bmp or .gif? It would be most revealing to show people what I mean – much easier than describing in words…)

There is a lot of positive comment on Darrell’s thread and I think it’s important to sound a warning note. By all means follow it while it’s working but be prepared to bail out when a losing run starts…

MrE makes some interesting points. This isn’t one of them, I quote (see first favourite thread):

"we gotta few doubters on board and I’d love to sink my hoof up their botty’s, at least up to the fetlock"

…not the best way to encourage debate.

However the fact that MrE has been using a similar system to Matron’s First favourite successfully for 9 years is excellent news and gives us all confidence that it is worth searching for profitable systems.

I just believe you need a lot of data before you can be certain of finding a winning formula.

I have one other point: reading the First Favourite thread it became clear that it is a very subjective system which requires quite a knowledge and experience about horse-racing, based around a simple system rule. The subjectivity is clear in the way Matron and MrE, applying the same system (i.e. first favourite), seem to disagree as much as they agree (when they incorporate their own gut feelings onto the system rule). Can it really be called a system when it’s so subjective?<br>Surely a system is a formula which anyone with any knowledge can apply and always get the same selection(s)?

(Edited by Steve SB at 10:37 pm on Dec. 29, 2001)

[darrell]

Selections from the majestic system, friday28th december.

Haydock 2.10 stormin native

Musselburgh 1.30 eponine<br>                     3.30 the nomad

Taunton 12.50 robber baron

Lingfield 2.05 young alex<br>              3.05 mishka

regards<br>daz.

[Steve SB]

Hi Jake,

I believe that the only way to assess a system is lots of data (2 years minimum). I’ve assessed many systems over this period including some of those posted on this (great) site, and it is clear that the norm is for ups and downs. i.e. a system can win for 2, 3 or 4 months, then will lose for 2, 3 or 4 months.

However, it has to be said, in my opinion and experience, that over longer periods, the majority of systems are losers (just like the majority of tipsters are losers – including professionals). If you look at the tipping competition on this site only 4 out of 22 made a profit (18%). If you look at proofing services it’s much the same.

Staking is important. Different plans can make unprofitable systems profitable; but the reverse is also true – so again a good run of historical data will help pick the best staking plan for a particular system. In general a system that picks a high percentage of lower priced winners will benefit from plans that incorporate doubles or some sort of increasing stakes on losers; systems that pick a low percentage of winners but with possibly high prices benefit from level stakes etc. etc.

However, if systems do go through winning and losing streaks then it might still be possible to follow one which is a long-term loser if the winning streaks are long enough to spot and then keep going after you start following them!

This is easier said than done because you have to make enough money during the winning streak to cover the start of the next losing streak (which you will have to bet on before you realise it has started – if you see what I mean).

Anyway, what this all means, in my opinion, is that while a "system" seems to suggest:

"a formula that you can apply in 5 minutes every day then sit back and wait for the money to roll in"

what it actually means is hard work, continuous monitoring, detailed records and intelligent reaction to changing situations.

As ever nothing is ever free!<br>

[hudsonmat]

Thanks for that Matron, even though I made a small loss on the day.

From today I will post selections on this thread and keep monthly and overall totals.

All previous selections can be found on the various competition threads.

I will not include Octobers results in the overall running total as I only posted for the second half of that month.

Just for interest the results were:

10 winners from 33 selections<br>Level Stakes Profit +25.53 points<br>This also included a losing run of 13!!!!

Anyway, November results to date:

L, W12/1, W3/1, W7/4, W5/2, L, L, L, W5/1, L, W7/4, L, W11/8, L.

Totals upto and including today:

7/14<br>LSP +20.38

Selection for 13th November

3.00 Lingfield – Velvet Island

cheers<br>matt

LOST<br>November Results to date:<br>7/15<br>LSP +19.38

cheers<br>matt

(Edited by hudsonmat at 10:11 pm on Nov. 13, 2001)

[Daylight]

— Posted by Marty on 1:14 pm on Oct. 27, 2001

Mr Frisk :0), my first ever national winner. All of about £7 if I remember right hehheh.

I would like to ask Kim firstly whom we should look out for from his stable in the coming months and secondly what he thinks of the claims made recently on this board and regularly on others that racing is crooked.

Many thanks.

It is hard to mention one particular horse, as after last year we really didn’t have a huge chance to find out about the young horses, although Sh Boon should be a nice horse to follow, he is a half brother to Anzum by Alderbrook, but if you had a pound on all my horses for the season you should make a profit!!! If you would like a brochure of my horses send me your address and I will send you a copy. I really don’t believe racing is crooked, certainly jump racing is concerned, as so much can go wrong, as for flat racing I am afraid as I don’t have any flat horses, I am not therefore involved with it, And I don’t read Dick Francis!!

<br>—  Posted by robgomm on 2:40 pm on Oct. 27, 2001<br>Hello Mr Bailey,

I’d like to ask you about Docklands Express. Was it the letter from Nick Mordin that helped you to decide to run him in the Racing Post Chase back in 1992?

According to his book he sent you a letter with one of his file cards enclosed. Apparently he’d evaluated that Docklands Express was almost unbeatable on tight tracks but I wasn’t involved in racing back then so I am just going off what I’ve read.

Thanks for answering our questions, Rob.

I am afraid I really cant remember that being the case, We had always wanted to aim him at the Racing post chase, as it is a handicap. But somebody else might have suggested running him in the King George, because we didn’t expect him to run that well. He was a very special horse, who enjoying a wonderful retirement, I wouldn’t mind another one like him!!

<br>— Posted by Scotia on 4:54 pm on Oct. 27, 2001<br>Do you find having your own website attracts more interest in your business.<br>I find them interesting; your site is very good and easy to navigate around in.<br>Also you updated regularly which keeps me coming back.

While surfing around the net I noticed that they have reintroduced the Breeders Cup Steeplechase.

Made me wonder if any horses from across here might head across for another crack at it. Morley Street did back to back wins in 1990/91 after winning the Champion Hurdle. Is there a reason we don’t participate?

Thank you for your time.

My web site seems to attract new owners; we work hard on it to keep it interesting. Although at times it does cause problems when I say something on there, which I haven’t told the owners! The Breeders cup Races are a good idea, but you want a horse that must want firm ground, and unfortunately most top class horses nowadays want good ground, so it is quiet a risk to take them out there and very expensive.

<br>— — Posted by Cara on 5:31 pm on Oct. 27, 2001<br>Hello Mr Bailey I would like to ask you what your thoughts are on amateur Jockeys, and which jockeys you feel will make the grade and will come on to be future A P McCoy’s .My second question is What do you think of the French training methods do they differ from yours and if so in what ways??? And do you think the French are becoming big rivals in the jumping game??

Thank you very much for your time<br>Yours Cara xxxx

I have a very promising amateur in Des Flavin, so follow his progress. It is very hard for them to get going, They can loose their claim very quickly, but they have to work very hard to keep that momentum going, otherwise they tend to disappear in the professional ranks, as there are always new kids on the blocks coming through. It such a game of fashion. Richie Forrestal is prime example, he was a very good amateur but really has disappeared, and he thought he was too good to work I am afraid! As for the French training methods, I don’t really know much about them, they are supposed to be harder on horses than we are, which might be why so many of their horses don’t keep going when they get older. They certainly are big players, but need big money for their horses. As to rivals, no, we want good competition that is very healthy.

<br>— — Posted by Daylight on 6:19 pm on Oct. 27, 2001<br>Thank you for answering our questions Kim, it is very much appreciated.

Alderbrook was one of the biggest gambles I have ever been part off and only managed to get just double figure odds whilst some lucky people got a massive 50/1. I remembered reading our bullish comments and reasons why we would win and felt compelled to back your horse for which I am grateful – thanks. Your finest hour as a trainer came within 1 day when you won with Alderbrook then Master Oats, my question is I would like to know how you felt as we could only dream about such things as backing them both, let alone training them!!

What horses are your Cheltenham hopes resting on this year?

Good luck for the future NH season Kim.

How can I forget those 3 days!! They were very special, but my lasting memory was of my Father kissing me, which he hadn’t done since I was 7 years old, It made us both very emotional, he was tough man, but was very proud. He sadly died shortly afterwards, so as you can imagine that is my lasting memory of that week. I hope I can do one of those races again, but I shall miss him, perhaps my son will have the same feeling in years to come.<br>At the moment I don’t really have any stars for the Festival, but we will in the future, as we are rebuilding, so don’t forget me Please.

<br>— — Posted by KEITH REED on 8:55 pm on Oct. 27, 2001<br>Hello Kim.<br>How did you become interested in racing?

My father trained a few horses for friends, and did well at it. I went to work in Newmarket for Humphrey Cotterill, and then I went to Capt Tim Forster and then 3 years with Fred Rimmell. Great days, with the winners of the Grand National (Rag Trade) Gold Cup (Royal Frolic) Champion Hurdle (Comedy of errors). All great experience. Always loved racing, and I shall try to stop my son going into it, but I know I wont succeed!!

<br>— — Posted by michael on 11:58 pm on Oct. 27, 2001<br>Hi Kim and thanks for answering our questions.<br>Do you think schooling in public should be allowed but treated as non-runners for betting purposes? In other words the trainer would be allowed to school in public but must declare his/her intentions before the race.

No I don’t think you should be allowed to school in public, provided you have your horses fit there shouldn’t be a need for schooling in public. Some racecourses are very helpful and let you school after racing. It is a very emotive subject, but I believe the current system is correct.

<br>— — Posted by sidders on 8:55 am on Oct. 29, 2001<br>Many thanks for being grilled Kim !!!!!!

Which achievement would you like to have most before you ‘hang up your boots?'<br>What’s the most valuable lesson you have learnt about racing over the years?<br>Any chance of another Master Oats?

Many thanks and have fun this season……….

I am in no hurry to hang up my boots!!! We all want winners, and I am no different, I would love to be lucky enough to have a horse good enough to win one of those big races again, I suppose the one big lesson I have learnt is not to give up on a horse too quickly, it is easy to do, but horses change as they get older, and can suddenly improve, and make bloody fools of you!! I keep looking for another master Oats, we all had the chance to have him, I was sent him as they didn’t think he was good enough to go to a big trainer, so we all need luck, And it goes to show that advertising does pay, as I advertised him in the Racing post for 3 weeks before Paul Mathews bought him!!

<br>— — Posted by Escorial on 9:34 am on Oct. 29, 2001<br>Hi Kim, thanks for taking the time to do this.

I’ve long been an afficiando of National hunt racing and much prefer it to the summer game. My question revolves around the lack of hurdlers around right now and I was wondering what your thoughts on the reasons are. Over the last few years, a "class act" off the flat has, basically, toyed with the opposition and won, in my opinion, sub-standard Champion Hurdles. You yourself won the race with a Group horse off the flat, Alderbrook, and I was wondering if you have ever felt that it "felt right" if you understand what I mean, being as you are, a "National Hunt" man The second horse that year had been earning his stripes over the years and, whilst I actually had a 33/1 voucher about your horse, I felt sorry for the connections of the runner up. The old adage of "a good flat horse will always beat a good jumps horse" was fully bourne out that day and you won the race with a virtual novice. We now find that trainers are looking to send their horses straight over fences after their novice season and Istabraq merely has to turn up to collect his prize, because the only horses he has to beat, are the same ones from the year before. As much as I admire the horse for his achievements, it’s just a case of "well, what did you expect!". My questions would be….

Would you prefer to win these races with National Hunt bred horses or do you not really mind how you do it?

Just where have all the hurdlers gone?

Thanks again Kim and all the very best to you and your team for the coming season……

<br>Well what a long question!!<br>I don’t believe that good flat horses make top class hurdlers, there is proof to both sides of the argument, but Alderbrook was a great exception, they have to have the guts for the hurley burley of jumping at speed over hurdles, there have been plenty that turn their heads up, and of course there are some very bad flat horse that turn out to be stars over hurdles, like Mysilve. A great deal of money is spent buying expensive ex flat horses to win the Triumph hurdle. And you don’t always hear of them after their 3-year-old career. I am happy to keep the races as they are, Chasers will come through, but big horses like Comedy Of errors did like jumping fences, as did some of Fred winters good hurdlers.<br>There are more hurdlers now than a couple of years ago, as the races have been framed to stop jump bred taking on flat bred ones, so I believe that the future is bright for the store horses.<br>Lets face it Istabraq is a hero, and the sport needs them, and he doesn’t always win!

<br>— — Posted by Katy on 12:06 pm on Oct. 29, 2001<br>Hi Kim, thanks for answering our questions.

Firstly I would like to ask, what have been the best and worst points in your training career, and also is there a particular horse that you will always remember.

Thanks again.

The greatest moments of my training career would have to be winning the two big races at Cheltenham in 1995 but the race that gave me the most satisfaction was Mr Frisk winning the Whitbread after he had already won the National.  Especially as everybody said it was impossible, no horse had ever done it before and as yet none since.  Another day that was especially memorable for me was pulling off a big coup with Carnival Air at Sandown having not been on the racecourse for three years. The worst moments are always when horses get killed or injured but I try not to remember too many of them.  I am a great believer on looking on the bright side of life and Racing can be pretty depressing at times.

<br>— — Posted by Daylight on 11:38 am on Oct. 30, 2001<br>Hi Kim,

I think we are currently witnessing the greatest jump jockey ever to ride on British soil in the form of Tony McCoy, do you agree with that? If not who?

I totally agree, he is the most extraordinary jockey.  He hasn’t ridden for me a great deal but what rides he has had for me have nearly always won.  He is exceptionally strong and what I like about him is if you ask him not to hit a horse, he won’t.

<br>— — Posted by Zoz on 9:14 pm on Nov. 1, 2001<br>Hi Kim, and thanks!

Okay, firstly can you give us an idea of how you came to be working as a trainer, i.e. assistant training, previous jobs, the works.

Also, what is it honestly and frankly like to be a trainer, I should think all the members realise it isn’t all roses and winners, but can you give us a "brutally" honest opinion of how your job can leave you feeling at the end of the day and why.

Cheers and good luck!

My father used to train horses for a few friends and that is how became interested.  I spent some time in Newmarket with Humphrey Cotterill followed by two seasons with Captain Tim Forster and then two seasons with Fred Rimell.  They were all great people to work for and I was able to witness the training of a Grand National, Champion Hurdle and Cheltenham Gold Cup amongst many other famous races. Training is a way of life.  The good times are tremendous and the bad times are horrible.  You can never ever relax because however good your day might have been at the races you more than often come home to face a problem in the yard.  Certainly after a busy week of getting up early in the morning, driving half way round the countryside and blistering your eardrums on the telephone one is knackered.  It always looks a glamorous sport from the outside but anybody who spends a day in the racing yard will soon realise that there isn’t a great deal of glamour involved in it.  At the end of all that, I wouldn’t want to do any thing else.

<br>— — Posted by dubaimillennium on 10:23 am on Nov. 2, 2001<br>Hello Kim,

First thank you very much for your time to answer all our questions. So let’s get started

Do you buy horses and if yes, where do you buy them?<br>I buy most of my horses at Doncaster Sales in May.  Those are the unbroken ones and I have a couple of people scouting round Ireland for me.

Do you like to work with flat breed horses? And to train them for the jumps?<br>If people wish to send me flat bred horses to go jumping that doesn’t cause me any problems.  They are no different to train except the occasional one needs more schooling.

Would you like to train horses for the flat as well?<br>I firmly believe you either do one or the other.  I have chosen to train National Hunt horses.  I believe every trainer would like to train top class Flat horses but unfortunately I find run of the mill Flat racing very boring.  The people are completely different, jump racing produces real enthusiasts.

Can you tell me the difference between a hurdler and a chaser, is a good hurdler automatically a good chaser one day?<br>Most horses if they have got the size and enjoy jumping will jump fences.   I never thought that Docklands Express would jump a fence as he was too small but at the end of it he had the guts for it and that’s what it takes.  It doesn’t mean that a good hurdler will make a good chaser.  Champion Hurdle winning horse, Comedy of Errors who was a huge horse couldn’t jump fences.

What do you think about French and about German breed horses for English Racing (Jumps)?<br>I haven’t had a great deal of experience with them but the French bred horses certainly seem to be very forward and are doing well under current conditions.

Do you think Bumper Races are important? Why?<br>I don’t.  I think they are a good excuse to give a horse more time and invariably a horse that runs in the bumper goes hurdling and races as if it has never seen a racecourse before.  They are a good way of bringing young horses on.

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[MrE]

Evening Mr Dale Height….. I aint complaining mate, honest guv’, I just didn’t want anyone to think about staking that way on short prices. Over the years I’ve used some sparkling staking plans but very few are worth following. That Fibonacci ones a killer, wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole, couldn’t afford a losing run… I’ve got about a half dozen that have stood me in good stead and none of ’em include a rapid rise in stakes…..<br>I gotta go now and work out Matrons profit, he’s gone mad lately……

MrE

[michael]

Hi Darrel<br>Think you made a mistake yesterday because according to the Racing Post Ludlow was the days principal meeting which produced a 2nd at 7/1 and a winner at 7/2.

[MrE]

Good afternoon Matron (yawn)…… sorry I’m late but I couldnt get on TRF last night, either a dodgy connection or TRF was busy…. <br>Results for September were….<br>LS….    Loss  1.01 points<br>MrE..    Loss  3.79 points<br>so that wasn’t too painful on our first losing month, our total bank was never in danger…. we know it was a crappy start to October for various reasons but the following results show that its good policy to accept the bad times gracefully cos better things are just around the corner…..<br>Results for October (so far)….<br>L.. L.. 11/8.. L.. L.. 8/11.. L.. 11/10.. 11/8.. L.. 11/8.. L.. L.. L.. 8/11.. 8/13.. 7/4.. 11/4.. 4/6……….. ??????…<br>we were being hammered up until a week ago but now look at the difference….<br>Oct. to date….<br>LS….    Profit    3.45 points<br>MrE..    Profit  16.31 points

As stated in earlier posts, betting short is NOT the way to the poorhouse…… with sensible staking its one of the most comfortable ways of betting…… the monthly analysis so far using the plan is…..<br>June….       Profit     22.74 points<br>July ….       Profit     29.83 points<br>August…    Profit     16.91 points<br>Sept ….      LOSS       3.79 points… (Oooops)<br>Oct  ….       Profit     16.31 points

OK, thats 82 points up over all, we only ever risk 25 points per month, so we can go for 3 months without having another winner and still be in profit…….

Keep it going Matron, you’ve got it made. Very well done.<br>:jivin:  :smiley: :smiley:

MrE