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Mickmackmagoole
Was a handy old tool
Though not always, perhaps, to be trusted.
But when money was down,
Only a clown,
Would oppose, and risk
Getting busted.This came to me last night.
Would Glenn publish simplified versions of his posts for us fickos?
Get some accreditation and turn up for the international races at the end of April, Pru. I cannot commend the deal too highly.
Racing is quite popular in Hong Kong even though there are no legal bookies. Inexplicable if you believe what our "bookmaking industry" (read "organised scam" if you like)claims to contribute to the sport in Britain. Just the 96,000 fee paying customers last Saturday. But of course very few of them are interested in betting since no fixed odds available, which is probably why they only turned over HK$1.261 billion between them (just over £100 million)that day. Around £11 million to the government. Around £4.2 million for the Jockey Club to spend on prize money and charitable initiatives.
They had a scratch card competition in which the prizes were worth more than an entire Saturday racecard in Britain.
That’s one day’s racing.
Poacher turned gamekeeper maybe, Ricky. But I’d rather be working for a system I believe in than turn out what are effectively pro-bookmaker press releases for a newspaper that depends on the bookies for its existence.
Remind me again how much we manage to squeeze out of the bookies in Levy.
If British racing fans realised there was an alternative they’d be imitating the action of the Tunisians and Egyptians, wouldn’t they?Hong Kong, Prufrock.
lol at Didsbury.
The Master Punter has assured me that he will offer selections for the next international G1 run at Sha Tin – if time spent with his fawning acolytes allows. Unfortunately that’s not until April.
Great reply Cormack. Never be afraid to bite the hand that feeds you.
Venusian, I heard exactly the same story but it was Lord Willoughby de Broke (appropriate) not Lord Rosebery who sold the pass to the enemy (and I use enemy without any of the affection implied by the stupid and the apologists in ‘old enemy’).
It’s nice to be in a place now where bookies are hunted crooks of the Capone variety – albeit about as rich.
A few, Cormack. But the laws of libel….
Can anyone answer any of Glenn’s as always pertinent questions?
What I don’t understand is the absence of boatrockers even in those sections of the media not dependent on bookmaker advertising.
You won’t let this forum become dependent will you, Cormack? Free bets ffs!
Pinza and Moehat are wittily missing the point. The ads don’t irritate me much. The thought that bookmakers might find a way of getting their claws into this Speakers’ Corner does. Once any publication (term used loosely) becomes dependent on revenue from their advertising it finds its testicles have been removed.
Bookmakers not so bad? Who said that? I think you will find that they are only interested in money. That makes them bad.
Nice question conundrum. What next, eh? Peter Naughton and Thommo’s "Buzzline"?
No Glenn, I’m not. Totesport’s hopeless.Thanks David. Every log on from here (Hong Kong) invites you to join 365 with a £200 incentive. I know sites cost money. And I don’t doubt your integrity. But I had a free lunch once long long ago, and then the purchaser put his hand on my thigh.
I did say it was long ago didn’t I? But that’s the way the bookies start when they want to take control. cf british racing.
Please refer to a thread in what I think we may have to refer to as "Another Place". Initials B and F. Title "What does Thommo put into racing?"
Some very good judges on there.
As well as the others of course.
You’d have thought they might have learnt from the example of Great Leighs.
Are you a bookie?
I notice this forum is now sponsored by a bookie. Do you work for them?
Would it be provocative as well as ungallant to point out that Stephanie looks a trifle porcine in her by-line pic, wit?
Doesn’t seem irrational to me, Bob. On your logic surely the removal of the whip would have made the fan base grow.
Agree completely, Katy.Bob, I believe there are parts of Scandinavia in which the whip has been banned and everything’s hands and heels only.
Heard much about Scandinavian racing lately?Let jockeys use their own judgement as to how many times they hit them, particularly if they’re now using powder puffs instead of whips. Trainers will soon dump them if they’re doing more harm than good.
At the end of long distance jump races belabouring a beaten horse probably is cruel. But the whole issue’s silly PC nonsense now the Aussies have more or less dumped the jumps.
Still… satisfies those who want to be seen to be more caring than anyone else I suppose – although the argument does racing’s image harm because it implies acceptance of the premise that professionals’ indifference to the horse’s welfare needs to be curbed.
And I thought Australia was an oasis on sanity on this subject.
I don’t really have much respect for Peter Thomas TDK, and that sort of facile junk is one reason why. As long as everyone who knows we made a big mistake keeps saying ‘Yes, but there’s nothing we can do about it", the bookies keep on smirking and British racing keeps on giving the rest of the world’s three stone.
One way to help promote change woud be to argue in favour of it regardless of the objections of those who say it’s too difficult to achieve. One way to protect your income is to mock those who remind people that change is desirable.
