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RobinCarmody1980

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  • in reply to: Time for Francome to go? #423361
    RobinCarmody1980
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    A good many racing fans are inverted snobs / Old Labour reactionaries. That probably comes into it.

    in reply to: Channel 4 to show all 30 Royal Ascot Races #423360
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    I really don’t think pressing two different digits on your Freeview remote is going to be that much of an effort. Why are people so lazy – and why do they assume their interests are the only ones?

    (I have no great love for what Channel 4 is now compared to what it was for its first decade, btw, but I understand entirely *why* it is what it is and the pressures it is under.)

    in reply to: Time for Francome to go? #423338
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    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Showcase meeting ends up getting moved slightly earlier, or at least to a different Saturday from Champions’ Day so as to continue coverage.

    I like Clare Balding a lot – how far she, and all of us, have come since the Blair Summer when she first appeared alongside a desperately uncomfortable Julian Wilson – but will miss Alastair Down no end. Form is temporary, class is permanent, and Clare has the form but Fat Al has the class.

    Interesting that the decision to have the same lead presenters throughout the year goes directly against the decision made a few years ago – up to and including 2009, Fat Al also presented the big events on the Flat and Cattermole did a number of lesser jumps meetings. I wonder if Alastair was offered Nick Luck’s role but didn’t want to work year-round and/or didn’t want to be perceived as a secondary presenter?

    in reply to: Channel 4 to show all 30 Royal Ascot Races #423333
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    As stated, the additional races will clearly be on More4, which is a de facto terrestrial channel these days. Completely different circumstances from a decade ago when the additional Cheltenham races were on Film4 – then only available to a comparatively small audience.

    I had suspected from quite a long way off that they’d do this – a good move.

    in reply to: Hello Bud should be barred from running in National #423120
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    I watched a programme about wrestling last night and, for some reason was thinking about racing as I watched it, especially when I realised that, like wrestling, racing is now no longer being shown by the BBC.

    Wrestling was never shown by the BBC. It was always on ITV back when the Beeb had all the proper sport, ITV was locked out and Sky didn’t exist (and couldn’t have existed). The BBC would have seen it as beneath them.

    in reply to: Hello Bud should be barred from running in National #423097
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    Emotions don’t tend to lead to well reasoned thoughts.

    Indeed not, but a lot of people’s responses to a lot of things, *especially* non-racing fans’ responses to the Grand National, *are* emotional gut reactions. Acknowledging that this is the case, as steeplechasing did, does not mean that you agree with it or that you respond that way yourself (at least over the issue being discussed).

    in reply to: Various past commentators #417962
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    Haydock Park, 21st September 1962 – Bob Haynes
    Sandown Park, 8th January 1966 – Michael Seth-Smith
    Fontwell Park, 19th September 1967 – Michael Seth-Smith
    Lingfield Park, 12th May 1978 – Michael Seth-Smith
    Folkestone, 21st July 1981 – Cloudesley Marsham
    Plumpton, 14th August 1981 – Cloudesley Marsham
    Brighton, 27th August 1981 – Michael Seth-Smith
    Plumpton, 31st August 1981 – Ken Grainger
    Newmarket, 29th October 1982 – Robin Gray and John Hickman
    Windsor (evening), 23rd July 1984 – Michael Seth-Smith
    Bangor-on-Dee, 18th October 1986 – Jeremy Branfoot
    Fakenham, 19th February 1993 – Iain Mackenzie

    in reply to: Various past commentators #415950
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    Revised/expanded/spelling-corrected version of THE LIST now here:

    http://www.mediafire.com/view/?dzicu4tl1rulzjm

    in reply to: Various past commentators #415750
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    Sandown Park, 27th May 1969 – Cloudesley Marsham
    Newbury, 23rd October 1976 – Ken Grainger

    in reply to: Various past commentators #415375
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    Sandown Park, 31st March 1965 – Michael Seth-Smith
    Catterick, 21st October 1967 – Lionel Hampden
    Catterick, 20th January 1968 – Lionel Hampden
    Wetherby, 9th March 1968 – Lionel Hampden
    Sandown Park, 16th March 1968 – Cloudesley Marsham
    Sandown Park, 9th November 1968 – Ken Grainger
    Wetherby, 15th October 1969 – Bryan Firth
    Sandown Park, 8th November 1969 – Cloudesley Marsham
    Catterick, 11th December 1971 – Bryan Firth
    Nottingham, 21st February 1972 – John Penney
    Market Rasen, 3rd April 1972 – Harry Beeby
    Fontwell Park, 15th August 1973 – Bob Haynes
    Haydock Park, 29th August 1974 – Michael Seth-Smith (Harry Beeby was auctioneer)
    Haydock Park, 9th August 1975 – Ken Grainger
    Newbury, 16th July 1977 – Michael Seth-Smith
    Newton Abbot, 1st August 1977 – John Cotterell
    Newton Abbot, 14th September 1978 – Bob Haynes
    Fakenham, 23rd December 1978 – Ken Grainger

    in reply to: Various past commentators #414279
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    The 1981 Grand National itself, like all GNs back then, wouldn’t have had a course commentary as such. They’d simply have broadcast the BBC radio commentary (that year: Bromley, Seth-Smith, O’Hehir

    pere

    , Penney) over the PA. Watch YT uploads of old Nationals and you can sometimes hear the distinctive voices of the radio commentators (esp. Bromley) in the background, where normally you’d hear the course commentator.

    Races run over the Melling course would have had a course commentary, though.

    A few more:

    Doncaster, 25th May 1992 – Bruce Friend-James
    Doncaster, 3rd May 1993 – Simon Holt
    Doncaster (evening), 11th June 1993 – Mark Johnson
    Doncaster (evening), 26th June 1993 – Simon Holt
    Doncaster, 21st July 1993 – Simon Holt

    in reply to: Various past commentators #414218
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    To be honest, I mainly left out post-2002 because I didn’t want to have to list a load of Leicester details from 2004-06, which all seemed pretty samey.

    But some more additions for rather earlier years:

    Birmingham, 27th April 1964 – Michael Seth-Smith
    Nottingham, 4th/6th July 1964 – Ken Grainger
    Lingfield Park, 26th September 1978 – Bob Haynes
    Plumpton, 14th October 1981 – Bruce Friend-James
    Lingfield Park, 16th October 1981 – Ken Grainger

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