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You say that bookmakers are “battling against ever more skillful punters” But is that true?
My guess is yes there are more people clued up than before, but the reality remains that the majority of people who bet on sports and horse racing are still long-term losers.
Of course should FOBTs go the way of the dodo there would be an army of low/zero skilled punters needing to get their fix somewhere. Sadly that place would probably be an online casino or ‘Lucksin Downs’. Was in a Coral the other day and they have cartoon football now
EDIT: Just spotted this, I don’t really understand what’s gone on here but seems relevant somehow.
Perhaps Mr Hunt doesn’t see racing having much of a future on terrestrial, will BBC or 4 want it back if ITV cock it up/ it doesn’t prove popular? His BBC radio work seems to be well received and that will always be there.
Personally I have never used an FOBT and never will but I believe strongly in choice – what about personal responsibility?
That’s a point that’s often missed. Nobody forces anyone through the bookies’ front door or to put a fag in their mouth or to do anything else. Certainly nobody did the first time. I am ashamed to say I’ve lost more than I should have on FOBTs in the past (thankfully I’m over it and wont be going back) but I always accepted that it was my fault.
As Gladiateur says, the science bit was interesting but otherwise its just the same things being said by different faces. This whole debate is going round in circles. Highlight for me was the casino owner calling FOBTs ‘immoral’
Surely in spite of all their big-race wins the biggest underachievers, by far, given the amount that they have invested are the Maktoum family?
In a similar vein, Mr O’Brien can often have 3 or 4 runners in a big race. I could tip that many per race and I’d get loads of winners but it wouldn’t make me a good tipster. I’m not belittling him, clearly the guy is very good at what he does and the vast majority of us couldn’t do it in a month of Sundays but does he really warrant the amount that some racing media are up his backside? Or is he in fact still overachieving relative to the vast resources he has available to him?
Probably too late but a heads up that Paddy are giving a fiver free tennis bet for every (singles) match won if you have 25 win or 12.50 e/w on mens outright. Only need to make quarters for money back in bets and even Murray gets you your cash back if he makes the final (he’s 2/1 half odds 1,2)
Just for the record, I was only commenting on the concept or arbing in general. Nothing specific to LS or indeed anyone else.
Presumably it is in theory possible for one to do one’s absolute brains with a particular bookie when arbing but make a large profit elsewhere to profit overall. In reality I guess it more or less evens its self out though.
Personally I couldn’t give a monkey’s who presents anything, racing or otherwise. Just show me the sport and I’ll form my own opinions. Commentators are important and maybe send one decent interviewer but the rest of them can get off the gravy train and sit in a studio.
I must say that I can’t recall the last time I heard of anyone going into Tesco to buy £25 worth of Red Stripe but being told that they could only have a tenner’s worth.
That’s a little bit of an unfair comparison, I can vaguely recall the odd occasion when I have requested booze from a drinking establishment and been refused
Forgive my ignorance but if I punt an outcome at Bookmaker A then arb using Bookmaker B or lay on an exchange what difference does that make to Bookmaker A? As far as he is concerned I have placed a bet on an outcome and that is that, one of us will win the bet and the other lose. What I do elsewhere is absolutely none of his business. Or am I missing something?
Surprisingly the manager didn’t seem embarrassed.
In his defence he doesn’t get paid enough to care. As long as there are mugs and machines he still has a job. I had the occasional punter storm out cos they wouldn’t let him have a tiddler of a bet on. My thoughts were basically ‘shoddy business practice yes but no skin off my nose.’
On the surface of it, they would appear to be exactly what many on here and elsewhere have been crying out for. No gimmicks, no casino and lay a half decent bet. We shall see I guess.
I’d purchase two evenly matched horses, always race them together and call them Pitt The Elder and Lord Palmerston.
Five Internet points for the not so obscure reference.
There are unconfirmed rumours that Emma Spencer was ejected from the stadium by security after attempting to approach Usain Bolt armed with a microphone attached to a six foot pole as he crossed the line in the 100m final.
What cost them a bit was making it 5000/1 in the first place. Not one person who backed those odds would have looked at 1000/1 and said ‘that’s no value’ and not placed the bet. Also never heard any mention of the big bets that went down the pan on the favourites. And of course they will have been queuing up all month to punt the no hopers again.
Chelsea to win the PL with Sanchez top scorer 125/1. If Aguero stays fit I’ve got no chance but I don’t like any of the others at the top of the betting. (single figure odds on Ibrahimovic for example
) And I fancy Chelsea’s chances and Arsenal to go well but fall short as always.
