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LOL – The plot thickens.
Never thought of it being the previous day !
Actually thinking about it I don’t think I have been since they realigned track so is the 2 mile start now at the entrance to home straight rather than 1/3 of the way up it ?
And doesn’t solve what the horse is !
Promise you it is the 12.50.
Check the colours of the other horses in the race.
In your picture the Orange and Black nearest to you in Accepting, Denis O’Regan in Wylie colours on Wee Forbees etc.
Check the racecard it is the second race.Britches may refer to:
Breeches, or britches, an item of clothing. Also known as Pants
I reckon it could be Our Joycey of K.Walton’s (that is what is on britches ?) that ran in the 12.50 on that day.
It is now the 3m 1/2f start since they remeasured etc and am sure looking at toher colours it is that race though would have been colour change from the racecard – blue and orange I think.That is def not the 2 mile start at Wetherby so can’t be the first on the 27th.
Looks more like the 2m 7f with the fence in the background at entrance to back straight.
Nothing in those colours ran in the first at Wetherby that day.
Have you got the actual time you took the photo. First was 12.20.
Reet,
Not if they harrow deeper which is what Kempton and Lingfield do when it rains and left open.
Sand within a soil structure makes it unstable unless it is rolled as the reason it is so porous is the gaps between the grains.
Rolled sand gives a firm surface hence the fact that ‘sealed’ AW tracks ride faster in the wet whereas those left open and harrowed will ride slower when it is wet as they have to work the track deeper to disperse the water.
Opinions are what it is all about and the Ascot race has certainly livened up this division.
I very much hope Tamarinbleu does go for the two limer as sadly as dj has pointed out at the moment the uncertainty as to which race he goes for is making him too big to lay for the QM.
Personally reckon ground at Cheltenham certain to be more like Sandown than Ascot.
Stll not convinced Twist would see it out but reckon those conditions would see Tamarinbleu comfortably beaten.As I say good fun to have opinions and stick your neck out !
An interesting thread and lets see how it looks as the evidence grows over time.
Personally always had doubts about Twist Magic getting home at Cheltenham so Tingle Creek was an expensive surprise.
I am not a particluar fan of his but would have big suspicionc about Tamarinbleu’s ability to reproduce the form espcially as liekly to be harried far more for the lead.
If he were mine I would definitely be going for the RyanAir and rightly or wrongly would be looking to lay him in QM even in a year where the division looks weak.
Point about shifty ground is some horses fail to handle it period.
As long as the ground shifts then some horses just do not seem to run any sort of race, and several of those that do fail to reproduce the run when back on conventional surface.
Dont think Sandown has any of the ‘shifty’ ground characteristcs on the chase course at all.
Is a fair point about the front runners but could argue Marodima was beaten so far he out he was one who failed to handle it.
Ascot and to a lesser degree York remind me very much of what used to happen at Happy Valley in HK when it was very wet.
There they race on sandmesh which can cope with astonishing amounts of rainfall and still on times ride far faster than expected or jockeys report.The other feature was despite the good times the distances first to last was massive and they finished strung out like it was a bog.
This puzzled me a lot and after speaking to ground staff and jockeys the conclusion I came to was that in these conditions the ground became very shifty underfoot.
For some reason , physical or mental, many horses completely failed to handle it and hence were beaten from an early stage and a long way at the finish.
Those that did cope could run good time but they finsihed physically very tired and always needed to be proven stayers at the trip, presumably as the physical exertion of pushing off such ground was quite great.It strikes me that Ascot and to a lesser degree York seem to replicate these conditions in wet weather so I must surmise they have a higher than average sand content in the soil.
It means front runners doing well is explained by the fact that so many horses completely fail to that only a small sample are left who by definition as they are not struggling in the ground appear to race handily.
Just a thought to throw into the mix.
P.S In HK they seldom reproduced level of form back on conventional going.
NOTE : Classy Lady is now a runner in the 3.55 having been scratched in error and now reinstated.
My head hurts just working out what is running.
Graysons – Dzesmin not in Dubai think Euro Dream his only one out there.
Is the same surface as whatever was down at Churchill Downs when it was laid so is an American surface which rides like Fibresand in being deep and heavily favouring those forward though whether it will today as track is sealed will be key factor.
Sealing it makes it like running on a beach when tide just gone out whereas usually like low tide when deep and powdery.
Hope you are well Alan and now able to inhabit the whole house !
