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  • in reply to: ITV Coverage – initial thoughts #1297088
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    <p abp=”457″>Yes I do have the Tivo box, it might be part of the problem, but it wasn’t recognising anything, because as Grey Dolphin says they keep changing the titles of the shows and Tivo or what device you use can’t recognise it. I have set up all the Craven Meeting, so I hope it records, great it’s on again.<br abp=”458″>
    I have also contacted ITV and told them it’s a shabby service.

    They’ll have got you down as either rabble without a cause or loopy

    in reply to: ITV Coverage – initial thoughts #1297024
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    <p abp=”344″>When I bought a TV, around four years ago, I set up a series link to Channel 4 racing, I never missed a recording, either for the weekend or midweek coverage. When the racing was transferred to ITV and ITV4 I set up series links again. For so long it was fine, but recently the links haven’t worked. I missed the Grand National day in it’s entirety, the racing this Friday and today’s racing.<br abp=”345″>
    I presume this is because they keep changing the titles of the programmes.<br abp=”346″>
    I don’t have the time to constantly keep checking the TV schedules, like do not I have the time to watch much racing live.<br abp=”347″>
    I am extremely cross about this, especially missing the Grand National for the first time. Why cannot the set up the coverage so series links work? Surely that cannot be too difficult for them?<br abp=”348″>
    Otherwise I think the coverage is better than Channel 4, by quite a long margin.

    Might it be that ITV do not always broadcast racing on the same channel each week?

    in reply to: ITV Coverage – initial thoughts #1296820
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    <p abp=”471″>Diasaster from a viewing figures perspective. They really do need to let The Opening Show go back an hour and give it a crack on ITV1. Just 30,000 viewers is very poor indeed.

    I think I read that the afternoon figures are down as well. I watched, yesterday afternoon and it was possibly the best I’ve seen. Perhaps it was Hayley Turner talking sense or Plunkett not screeching so much as well as. Alternatively it could be the absence of the jumping team. What does strike me is I find the presenter better than Chamberlain, far better…..or maybe it was less of Chapman phrenetically rasping around the bookies.

    in reply to: What do you think of racingpost.com's new look? #1296673
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    <p abp=”108″>I hate it I always like to see the breeding of a horse, especially the two year olds, and now it doesn’t seem to show up anywhere.

    <p abp=”109″>However, if you log in to Racing Post Bloodstock you can still get something akin to the old site and all the info on sires and dams.

    <p abp=”110″>I just think RP are trying to get site users to buy into their dreadful Members Club and pay for information you can get free on ATR..Jac :wacko:

    I’ve never used RP until very recently, I’ve used Sporting Life. I tried RP and found it little or no better than the new SL. The new SL is a regression not an improvement and from what I’ve seen on here, RP is at about the same level. But I suppose the less useful either of them are, the more the bookies will benefit.

    in reply to: ITV Coverage – initial thoughts #1296616
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    <p abp=”394″>Those who make today’s programmes would just take that as the view of a dinosaur.

    <p abp=”395″>To be fair, dinosaurs were around for over 160 million years. I don’t envisage ITV Racing lasting as long.

    :yes: Funny you should come out with something like that on the very day I have my annual health review, when I will let the doctor know that I am older than the NHS and, despitea few issues, I’m in far better shape. (Our NHS Trust has just gone back into special measures after a short remission).

    in reply to: ITV Coverage – initial thoughts #1296363
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    <p abp=”291″><p abp=”170″>Funny how Peter O’Sullevan could handle a whole programme almost single-handedly that now takes half a dozen to be relatively unsuccessful at.

    <p abp=”292″><p abp=”171″>That’s absolutely not the case. David Coleman then Des Lynam shouldered most of the production ‘in the studio’ and O’Sullevan was helped by many others (John Hanmer, Julian Wilson, Jim McGrath, Michael O’Hehir, Tony O’Hehir, Richard Pitman, Jimmy Linley etc etc) ‘outside’.

    <p abp=”293″>Except they weren’t all there every programme. The O’Hehirs were largely involved only with the Grand National and maybe Cheltenham and I don’t ever recall them appearing together, more the younger took over from his dad. I may be wrong but I think Coleman and Lynam were an either/or and none of them had any great knowledge of racing. Rarely would there be more than two experts in the programme and all were knowledgeable and gave excellent comments on the horses. The whole production was much more informative, paid far more attention to the race in hand, with rasping and screeching a no-no.

    <p abp=”294″><p abp=”172″>Mike

    <p abp=”295″>I think I would prefer BBC’s old style of presentation but that is effectively dead and buried. Those who make today’s programmes would just take that as the view of a dinosaur.

    I guessed you would say that when I saw your name, I remember Stilvi but then I remember My Babu and Airborne. :yes:

    in reply to: ITV Coverage – initial thoughts #1296311
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    <p abp=”252″>The BBC had around 50 years to get it right, and its roster of callers nearly as long in which to hone the stock phrases that the public longed to hear repeated every year

    <p abp=”253″>This was ITV’s first attempt and was adequately tailored if not seamless: how could anyone expect it to be?

    <p abp=”254″>They’d be wise to review the camera angles used in the past, as to my eyes, the ones used yesterday presented an un-Aintree-like Aintree. The Chair didn’t look like The Chair, for example

    <p abp=”255″>I find Chapman ghastly, but realise he’s ‘marmite man’ and am too familiar with all the others (bar Chamberlin) to offer any feeling except ambivalence

    <p abp=”256″>Chamberlin is a nicely understated foil to the white noise surrounding him, and lest we forget knows much more about the game than Des Lynam or David Coleman did: both chosen because they were familiar and proficient presenters adept at herding the pundits around them

    ITV generally replaced the BBC and were showing racing for best part of twenty years. You must recall the ITV7 back in the seventies.

    in reply to: ITV Coverage – initial thoughts #1296310
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    <p abp=”170″>Funny how Peter O’Sullevan could handle a whole programme almost single-handedly that now takes half a dozen to be relatively unsuccessful at.

    <p abp=”171″>That’s absolutely not the case. David Coleman then Des Lynam shouldered most of the production ‘in the studio’ and O’Sullevan was helped by many others (John Hanmer, Julian Wilson, Jim McGrath, Michael O’Hehir, Tony O’Hehir, Richard Pitman, Jimmy Linley etc etc) ‘outside’.

    Except they weren’t all there every programme. The O’Hehirs were largely involved only with the Grand National and maybe Cheltenham and I don’t ever recall them appearing together, more the younger took over from his dad. I may be wrong but I think Coleman and Lynam were an either/or and none of them had any great knowledge of racing. Rarely would there be more than two experts in the programme and all were knowledgeable and gave excellent comments on the horses. The whole production was much more informative, paid far more attention to the race in hand, with rasping and screeching a no-no.

    <p abp=”172″>Mike

    in reply to: ITV Coverage – initial thoughts #1296305
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    <p abp=”108″>“Well I think that’s an excuse rather than a reason for a programme that has a large dollop of participant self indulgence. As someone has said, three or four of them standing round a table nattering about something naff all to do with the next race. Meanwhile the horses are being mounted in the paddock or on their way to the start, before they even provide a list of the runners. Funny how Peter O’Sullevan could handle a whole programme almost single-handedly that now takes half a dozen to be relatively unsuccessful at.”

    <p abp=”109″>Simple, don’t watch it and stick to Racing UK then.

    How much does it cost?

    in reply to: ITV Coverage – initial thoughts #1296160
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    <p abp=”337″>Personally I think the coverage is crap and even worse than C4 and the C4 before it. The whole production is frenetic, made worse by the rasping Chapman and the screeching Plunkett. When will they recognise that racing is first and foremost about horses and not slebs?

    <p abp=”338″>Probably, because ITV are not catering for racing aficionados.

    <p abp=”339″>Racing on terrestrial TV will always be a compromise to appeal to a wider audience.

    <p abp=”340″>Just be grateful ITV are showing it as if they dropped it that, would probably be the last we would see it on the Freeview platform.

    Well I think that’s an excuse rather than a reason for a programme that has a large dollop of participant self indulgence. As someone has said, three or four of them standing round a table nattering about something naff all to do with the next race. Meanwhile the horses are being mounted in the paddock or on their way to the start, before they even provide a list of the runners. Funny how Peter O’Sullevan could handle a whole programme almost single-handedly that now takes half a dozen to be relatively unsuccessful at.

    in reply to: ITV Coverage – initial thoughts #1296111
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    Personally I think the coverage is crap and even worse than C4 and the C4 before it. The whole production is frenetic, made worse by the rasping Chapman and the screeching Plunkett. When will they recognise that racing is first and foremost about horses and not slebs?

    in reply to: Betting shops in the 1980s? #1295807
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    I was there when betting shops first came in (and before) :yes: The tickatape would be either in the back room or perched on a shelf looking as if it could fall at any minute. A guy known as “Ginger” did the calling with the difficult job of listening to the course commentary and relaying it over the Tannoy. Some of his pronuciation was terrible and I doubt he would suvive in todays world of Azertyuoip and other French names. I remember a horse called Magybilibite? for which the pronunciation should have been Maggybillibitay but Ginger only knew it as Maggy-Billy-Bite. I was banned from the only shop in town for winning on too many days. I had a system of backing favourites over the sticks on good going in January, when the form had sorted itself out. (jump racing didn’t really start until autumn. Another worthwhile system was backing trainers who won plenty of racing in a particular month; Reg Turnell’s I can remember was November.

    There were plenty of systems around in those days, some of them pretty good but time consuming.

    in reply to: Answer this horse racing question then ask the next #1294270
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    <p abp=”436″>What two things are unusual about the winner of the 1949 Epsom Derby?

    Probably the photo finish was historic. Other than that, it was owned by bookmaker, William Hill. Sadly I’m old enough to remember the radio replay. :whistle:

    in reply to: French Horse Racing 2017 #1293874
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    <p abp=”170″>I’ll give the trotting a miss I think :yes:

    <p abp=”172″>Trotting in France is more popular than flat and nh put together – the D’Amerique generates more interest among French people than the Arc, in spite of it being run in the depths of winter.

    <p abp=”173″>I’m guessing a little, but this may be because the horses stay in training for longer and race more frequently (tougher breed plus A.I.). The form is more reliable and horses get bigger followings than the thoroughbreds. D’Amerique winners like Bold Eagle, Ready Cash, Jag De Bellouet etc, are far better known than almost any Arc winner you could name.

    And trotting is heavily promoted by including trotting races, certainly in provincial racecards…..and very enjoyable it is too.

    in reply to: ITV Coverage – initial thoughts #1293602
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    Richi Persad is an interesting study. Does anyone remember him being schooled to learn to ride? I found it hard to believe since I had read he was at one time an aspiring jockey and came from a horsey family. Was this yet more TV bullshine?

    in reply to: ITV Coverage – initial thoughts #1293575
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    High time they learnt that racing is about horses and jockeys, not who they consider slebs.

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