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okay then he is first up against the wall. After all the Labour Party except for Kate Hooey that is.<br>Hmmm. I don’t know though. Jeremy Kyle may not be quite as bad as Anne Widdecombe.
Did you just click your heels?
<br>It isn’t the people that watch it. It is the people who put it out , and the homogenised morality that goes with it, that is the problem. It is lowest common denominator TV to keep the masses thick. Social engineering again.<br>
Jeremy Kyle. God I would love to whack his narrow monded morality down, and stop him bullying the down on their luck.
Aragorn<br>Don’y yake my word for it…ask your bank. I am a retailer and we get garbage from the government and finacial institutions through the mail all the time asking us to report suspicious transactions in cash…and not just over a Grand. Some of these are quite intimidating.<br>I throw them in the bin. Howver the fuctionairres, in banks etc…will follow this to the letter, and suspect everyone they jealously watch with wads of cash.
Now nobody wants to launder money, but I for one am certainly not trained to decide. It is like 1984 or Nazi Germany if we have to watch people like this.
The result is that we have seen very very little cash this year in our business. Less than 5%. It was never much anyway as most people at the races do not carry wads of cash contrary to beleif. If I go I draw £100 and use £30 for betting and if I do not win I go hime with nothing left. I think that is the majority. So if I was to buy a bottle of champagne, a picture or a pair of binocs or a hat…I would use my card.<br>Fear of pickpockets is one reason.
But the governmet imagine that racing is full of criminals laundering millions of pounds of black money every week. I even caught the Police filming people one day.
When I asked why, they said in case there was any trouble they had pics of troublemakers. What utter crap…and I told them so. Then they looked at each other and came clean….filming suspects that may be laundering money for terrorist purposes. At the races????? Taxmen with truncheons.
BUT the government believes Racing is being used for money laundering. From drugs and prostitution. But they allege terrorist links which is absurd beyond belief.
What …if you question that you are an anarchist?
That just goes to show what a dangerous state we live in when dissent is seen as anarchist rumblings.
Blair and his ilk have indeed created a state where everything we do is watched, and we live under fear that all this is necessary because of terrorism.
When they lock all the terrorists in the AR movement up I will think they are sincere in this. They have alowed convicted animal rights bombers and terrorists here to speak , and raise money openly.
Back to racing. The evidence gathering in this will see the state’s tentacles reach deep into betting transactions and justify them looking at peoples computer and mobile phone records. That is what it is about.
In the meantime I suggest you have proof of any cash you carry at all times was earned or drawn from your bank legitimately. ÂÂÂ
Big Blair is watching you.
(Edited by GreenGreenDesert at 2:29 pm on Sep. 14, 2006)
From Paddock revue update (Czech):
Pal Kallai to make his Prague debut<br>Legendary Hungarian jockey Pal Kallai will have his first ever ride at Velka Chuchle on September 17th at the age of 73. Kallai escaped from Hungary in 1956, and rode in Austria, Germany and the USA, where he also became a champion featherweight boxer. He returned to Europe in 1978 and to Hungary after 1989. He has ridden over 2000 winners in all. In 1992 he rode seven winners on a 10-race card at Budapest. He has been Hungarian champion jockey seven times. Pal Kallai rides Adoracja in the second race on the 100th anniversary day programme.<br>1000 bottles of sekt<br>A thousand bottles of sekt and five thousand glasses are ready for the free centenary celebratory drink at 3 p.m. at Velka Chuchle on Sunday, September 17th. If that does not attract a good crowd, what will!<br>Plenty of entertainment on September 17th<br>The entertainment on Sunday 17th begins at 12.40, when a military band will strike up. Throughout the afternoon there will be a range of shows and events, in addition to the 8-race card. <br>Final VP qualifying race flop<br>The final qualifying race for the VP has attracted only 7 runners. With the withdrawal of Ner, the only interest is whether Ligreta, too young for this year’s VP, can put out a marker for next year. Icare du Renom and Jack de Trao Land are taking this last chance to qualify for the race on October 8th. Jack de Trao Land will be ridden by Josef Van’a junior, who will also ride him on Ocotber 8th, against his father, who will be on Retriever.<br>
I keep telling you but you won’t have it.
This has NOTHING to do with Fallon or corruption in racing or protecting punters. It is about New Labour watching how much black money there is in the economy. So they can get their hands on money they do not understand can exist outside their clutches. EVERY bank and shop has to report every transaction over a grand they regard as suspicious.
I had to go into my bank and explain why I have business transactions in the Czech republic. I felt like telling them to F.O and mind their own business but I have a feeling that if I had I would have had the filth busting down my door looking for drugs and hookers but pretnding they were looking for semtex.
we have a little syndicate in the czech republic but the training fees get paid out of my account. All transactions are recorded and I have never screwed a penny out of the revenue.
We are all suspects in racing. Wait and see, there will be a maximum bet shortly, and it will all be put down to making something stick on Fallon et al and all the evidence coppers find of untoward transactions from money that appears not to have been earned.
How do I know this? Hah hah…that would be telling…..
Meanwhile Labour mps and their supporters at top level are getting away with all sorts of dodges.
The eventual idea is to do away with cash altogether; so all transactions are monitored by banks , credit agencies and the state.
(Edited by GreenGreenDesert at 3:22 am on Sep. 14, 2006)
some amusing and interesting answers.
OMG there is a TORY :o here boys; aren’t you gonna lynch her too? :biggrin:
Seriously Frisky One please drop by my blog sometime; I think you will like it as much as some of these guys hate it!
That remark about Zoz; Rory was priceless. Utterly dry….had me in hysterics; thanks. Sorry Zoz I have a warped sense of humour.
I remember Absolution well. In fact I have an action quality watercolour of him I bought from another artist that is very nice if you are interested. Lovely horse; very white.
Qixallcrossett. Awwww…… To me it shows that racing isn’t about winning. Without a herd to lead, there would be no leader. And someone has to bring up the rear.
Its all very well winning these races for babies on the flat but to me they have to prove themselves over jumps.:biggrin: <br>If I owned A Derby winner , I would be thinking:<br>"Wow…I might have myself a champion hurdler here".:o
Okay lets go forward a little. Commander in Chief. Erhaab. Take your pick.<br>I remeber Tenby and geisway in the aforementioned Derby but I can’t think of one in Erhaab’s that sprngs to mind. So i think as I said that Slip Anchors derby…and therefore performance…was very special. I mean Thetarical and Supreme Leader and Law Society and Shadeed WERE top class….and have bred at least some top class offspring.
Indeed.<br>I think there were great horses in those days in depth. Think of Pebbles and Commanche Run and Bob Back too<br>(my brother still owes me £10 000 for the 100/1 he laid me against Bob back winning that when they met. First time I have ever heard a "bookie" refuse to pay out on the grounds that one horse was in season and the other lame!)<br>Oh So Sharp was a great horse of 85 too. Yes 83 84 and 85 were great years for the flat.
I thought Shadeed did run..where did he finish?
I funnily enough had the largest bet of my life on the flat , in that race; I was teaching and had just got my supply teaching wages (overpaid, teachers; even then!).<br>I had £50 each way on Phardante at 100/1 and 66/1 .
He finshed 6th. But I got my money back and a bit more when I got 25/1 and 33/1 on him e/w in the St.Leger where he was beaten a short head.
Certainly does seem a remarkable derby for sires in depth though. Is ther another one like it?
I still like horses by Phardante when it is muddy. Was Damister the sire of Celtic Swing? And Supreme leaders speak for themselves. I hope we will have the horse that will put Law Society really on the map when ours wins the Velka in 3 years time!:biggrin:
(Edited by GreenGreenDesert at 11:34 pm on Sep. 6, 2006)
Mildred Pierce features among fascist attempts at censorship recently. There is not much of the movie left if you cut out all the smoking and fur; something that the Bogart movie "The Maltese Falcon" is also subject too. Incredible that there are forces at work trying to do just that. Already I was told TCM get regular flak about such movies, and even once had an advert saying that it was a channel where you could see such things still. See these movies while you can in their full form as they will no doubt be banned by the forces of political correctness soon the way things are going:
<br>http://www.celebsmoking.com/PG/Mildred_Pierce/img00000002.html
It is a great movie, as was mentioned by Drone…surprisingly dark for irs time. Brooding sexuality and meancing lighting and powerful performances told in flashback keeps you rooted to your seat all the way through. Real Art.
There are later movies which I love in a similarly dark vein. "Night of The Hunter" and "Cape fear". There are some magically dark Stanwyck movies too. The bridled menace is terrific and no modern movies have it.
Well except maybe the brooding menace in this one which leaves you open mouthed and must rate as the darkest movie Disney were ever involved with. Truly terrifying, and very memorable for the arab horse. Those of you who do not rate Arab horses need to see this movie. An interesting site about "The Eaters of The Deas"or as renamed "The 13th Warrior":
What is good is it shows how much more learned and advanced the Moslem world was at the time, albeit you have to forgive Banderas more err…"Moorish"  interpretation of an Arab. But it is a movie about enlightenment as much as a terrifying historical horror.
But it is Atanarjuat the fast Runner that will blow your mind when you see it. It has every ingredient you could want from a film, and a hugely important cinema landmark. It is an Inuit movie. It offers a glimpse into a society that our modern one would brush aside with its homogenising commercial and moral imperialism. Strike back one. This is a must….possibly the best film ever made in terms of narrative, photography, atmosphere and certainly into a culture that will make you realise what narrow minded people we are in the West, and what lowest common denominator piffle most of our movies/culture are. A real epic of a movie that will make you cry, pump your adrenalin, and spellbound all but the most parochial cynic. But underlying it are real fundamental human truths.  And again it has fair share of brooding terror:
http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/canada-mag … tle-en.asp
http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/42/fastrunner.htm
For breathtaking fun and action, and a superb premise<br>that would make it laughable if it were not so brilliantly handled, it has the be "Reign of Fire". Humanity and civilzation wiped out all ober the planet by dragons. But the are not the quaint dragons of previous fantasy movoes. These are really brilliant. They look alive. And again a cultural element with the Britain  v USA cultural difference highlighted amusingly with good banter. Again it is adrenalin packed fun though at the end of the day…especially the angel skydivers in action from the heicopters as bait for the dragons.:
http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/rei … /27_sm.jpg
love that picture; the houses of parliament burnt out by dragons. Well I would being a welshman wouldn’t I?::o biggrin:
http://www.hollywoodjesus.com/movie/rei … _photo.htm
<br>Interesting subject you raise here with the Wicker Man. I wasn’t aware there was a new version but the old one was excellent.<br>The number of horror movies resulting from fear of "the woods", and especially people who live in rural wilderness, is astounding.
Texas Chainsaw massacre, Deliverance, Straw Dogs, the Whicker man right through to the Blair Witch Project<br>Dog Soldiers, the Wrong Turn and Wolf Creek.
What is that fear all about? You are far safer in the depths of a forest at 3am than outside our 24 hour spar…where seldom a night passes without violent incident.
Hmmmm…so urban people are that alienated by the countryside that they are frightened of it. Interesting. I feel a wicker man coming on…..
But seriously…its irrational and truly bizarre isn’t it? Most horror movies play that up.
Matbe that is why I personally like the George Romero zombie movies best…they play on my fear of urban life; they are a metaphor for urban social decay(as he intends).
Another movie which sent up this genre was "Cabin Fever". The odd thing is urban people think it is a horror movie when really it is a comedy…as was the Evil Dead first two movies which camped up fear of the woods.
Have you seen The Village? Interesting.
One real life example of this was starkly illustrated by an incident where I asked our local Labour MP to meet with people from the three Hunts which surround out town. he agreed no problem (he isn’t a bad MP actually for local things…just a bit tainted by old Labour class dogma, animal rights ect). Anyway, the day before the arranhed meeting he rang up in a panic, and asked if it could be put on in town, instead of the country pub we had arranged. He was very very nervous. Finally after telling him he had nothing to worry about, he came. he arrived two hours early and set up video cameras. I think he was expecting a wicker man scenario. Anyway he was truly nervous, but I think now would be first to admit that hunting people are very decent and I think…though he didn’t budge on his position…he was relieved he didn’t get attacked. I realised then however how distant he was from the land and animals.
The highlight of the night was when he was describing that hunting makes people desensutised to suffering, and we must be educated to reach a more enlightened position above our naturally savage nature. Everyone looked at him gone out. He had to give an example of waht he meant. He said, "well, you know, like when I was a kid I used to nail squirrels to trees and tie fireworks to cats tails becuase I thought it was fun….but I grew out of it once I became aware of it being cruel" . The room went deathly silent. I do not think anybody in the room had ever treated animals with such direspect even when young.
Anyway..I digress. My point is that urban people fear the countryside, and movies play on it.
People of the cities and the newspapaers talk of "beasts" of the moors and the forests. We know them to be black leopard, Lynx and Puma. :o If you ask the locals of Trellech, they deny that the panther were released there in the 70s. They say they have always been there. There may however be a fundamentalist hunting rural group (wicker man stuff) who have reintroduced lynx to the wild….one west country Hunt had one cornered up a tree and had to call off the hiunds because they were getting a mauling.<br>Anyway, those of us who ride regularly in Wentwood, Trellech area, and the forest of Dean see a lot of stuff that isn’t meant to be there including red deer, pine marten, wild goat etc and of course the panther. I do not know anyone who rides there who HASN’T seen them. Yet here is the media reaction:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/southeast/si … cats.shtml
When you have seen rotting sheep and dog carcasses up a tree you know there is only one thing that does that.
STAY OUT OF THE WOODS… YOU ARE RIGHT TO BE SCARED:biggrin: :o :o
However if any overnight chepstow visitors woul like a tour of the woods and a possible sighting, I am available as a very expensive tracker and guide:biggrin: <br>
Please forgive me I thought this common knowledge:
http://www.cheltenham-festival.co.uk/article84.html
http://www.hri.ie/industry_info/address.asp
http://www.arts-sport-tourism.gov.ie/pu … asp?ID=719
£296 million does have an effect. And I can just see Tony Blair congratulating our trainers in the unlikely even that we had ten winners at Punchestown. It is an absolute disgrace that Charlie Mann was never offered as much as an MBE for winning the Velka.
yes….there is money in Ireland in the rural communities because the Irish government have got everything out of the EEC they can for it; unlike the British government which continues to wage war against the countryside and animal farming.
Their continued support for hunting there for example has seen the hare protected in areas through incentive conservation. In areas where the farming has become arable industrial, so no hare coursing, the hare is declining rapidly. There are 7 species of hare in Ireland,<br>including blue hare which stand bigger than a small child….but they ONLY exist in areas which they are coursed….coursing protects habitats, and the greyhound body works hand in hand with the government conservation body to ensure this.
Of course the fact that Irish jockeys are hunting several times a week must also help their horsemanship; aswell as the horses jumping ability….even if it is only marginal ,<br>that can be the difference between victory and defeat.
The results speak for themselves….a wealthy government backed healthy rural economy with finance secured from the EEC , yes, a relatively wealthy owner base in part as a result,  and hunting supported at the moment, will continue to see Irish horses dominate.
Nobody can compete with that level of support.
Another reason to get rid of Blair. Maybe the Tories would be more likely to support the farmers and give them what they are due, get rid of the daft bureacracy of Defra, and see racing as one of our most important industries in terms of emplying people in real jobs that will always be labour intensive; reintroduce hunting, make urban councils do more for their adjoining  countryside  etc etc.
We cannot just keep relying on the generous support of a few top jumps owners to fund the whole business. Can you imagine the catastrophe if Johnson, Hales, andy Stewart etc just decided to move abroad or something? <br>I personally think that the government must address urban alienation from the countryside so you do not get a middle class wealthy elite with lots of money but no idea that they should be spending it on owning horses.:biggrin:
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The horses that Dai Williams takes for the timber races <br>in Virginia next month are former German St.Leger winner "Hanko", and "Make it Easy". He believes they are both much better horses over timber than normal fences, and he will campaign them if all goes well until November in Pennsylvania.
He had some success last time he visited and of course has won The Marlborough Cup, the UKs main timber race on a couple of occassions, beating the best American horse on one occassion.
My question to you Jamey, is have there been many changes in the last few years re the standard , number etc of horses competing in timber races?
He said last time he went one race in which one of his horses finished 2nd has a field of about 16, though the average was about 6 per race. What can he expect this time , as I say in terms of quality and quantity of opposition? Has the competirion got fiercer or weaker in the last few years in your opinion ?
It is probably worth you meeting up with Dai and Lucy (owner rider) at some point while they are there.
(Edited by GreenGreenDesert at 3:47 pm on Sep. 6, 2006)
It seems like a few people are going out to Pardubice this year, so for those of you going…and for those of you interested in future…some things to learn to say that will get you by and get you a good welcome.
Firstly, get the name of the place right. The way most British people say it is the ultimate faux pas.<br>It is NOT par…du…bee…chee
In Fact, "the pronounciation "du bee chee" sounds a little like the Czech word for "*****. So it is ESSENTIAL to get the pronounciation right!!!!<br>The town is pronounced Par…doo…bitz…a
And the race (because of czech grammar) is;<br>vel…kar  par..doo…bitz…Ka(r)
Now for some simple Czech phrases:
pivo prossim (pee..vo pross..eem) Beer please<br>cava prossim (car va "  ")  coffee please
Vitez misto (vee…tes(h) mee..stow) win and place
krasny kone (kras…nee  kon..(i).. yeh) beautiful horse
dobbri den (dob…ree den) good day
diki mots  thankyou very much
dobbro nots  good night
ciao  hi/bye (familiar…you must have met the person)
ahoy  hello
Literally that will do …but you MUST know those…people do not speak English…they do Russian and German in schools. Use these and they will be flattered you have made some effort and so will they.<br>Pardubice is not Prague. It is not a global culture city.
If you do not try to use those and expect it to be like france…then expect to have a good a time as Clement Freud had. He is now banned from the course.
(Edited by GreenGreenDesert at 10:25 pm on Sep. 5, 2006)
Thankyou for the answer about your horse you lost; it must have been difficult to recall. …but nice to hear the bond you had with him and the fact you celebrate him.
The Sport of kings Challenge was mentioned at Cheltenham…..do you think something like this would be supported in future by US trainers? What would be the prospects of seeing a big timber race winner run at say Pardubice or in the cross country at cheltenham? Would I be right in thinking that this type of horse would be more suited to such tasks, and are there trainers there who may consider such a course?
Also what would be your season this year…the expected highlights and horses you are looking forward to riding? How many rides will you have for example, and how diffiicult is it to get outside rides…ie from trainers you do not know?
