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gave some assistance….drawing numerous mitigating factors to the attention of the Panel
Sounds more like wholesale assistance if you consider the word ‘numerous mitigating factors’
Presumably Codrington wasn’t just talking off the top of his head and had a dossier of pre-prepared mitigating statements at his disposal. Why did the BHA enter this process with, as the facts seem to suggest, every intent that Findlay should be let off the hook? Does the "strong advice" to be legally represented actually exist on paper or was there a nod and a wink to Findlay that, rather than risk a bungling lawyer incurring the wrath of the Panel, his best hope of getting off the hook was to be unrepresented and the BHA’s ‘bodyguard’ would cover his back?
Racing for Change? The term Flim Flam men springs to mind.
……The Authority strongly advised Mr Findlay to be legally represented at the hearing, particularly bearing in mind the published range of penalty and “entry point”. Mr Findlay chose not to be legally represented. The Authority’s case was presented by the Head of Compliance and Licensing, Oliver Codrington. However he also gave some assistance to Mr Findlay as a matter of good practice, drawing numerous mitigating factors to the attention of the Panel which the Authority considered that a representative for Mr. Findlay might make.
I find the above statement most peculiar. The Authority prosecuting the allegations advises Findlay to be legally represented. Findlay, for whatever reason, be it an arrogant attitude to the proceedings or a lack of resources to be able to fund a lawyer, chooses not to be represented. Consequently the BHA’s prosecutor speaks on Findlay’s behalf and pleads in mitigation. A ridiculous state of affairs. I cannot imagine any other organisation adopting such a stance. If Findlay chose to bat on his own then that was his decision. To suggest Codrington acted as a matter of good practice is totally misleading and an attempt by the BHA to manipulate the course of natural justice. Any mitigating factors should have been proffered by Findlay with perhaps assistance in presenting his defence by the Panel’s Chairman. That’s how it would work in any other tribunal that I can think of.
This case has a very murky aspect to it and I have no doubt that the bad practices evident throughout this farce will result in his Appeal being upheld.
Who gave Codrington permission to ‘look after’ Findlay’?
And why?
KMatthew wrote…Sooner Cormack gets rid of you the better, you’re just a very negative person Conundrum, I’m quite a bit up today actually.
If you’re that much up on the day, Matthew, why not go and treat yourself to some pop and crisps before starting your homework.
On the other hand, if you mean you’re quite a bit up your own backside today, then what’s new.Thanks for the psycho-analysis but as far as my negativity is concerned, you just seem to have that effect on me with your constant race-riding opinions.
Tell you what, one of these days before you set off for school I’ll put you up on a horse and we’ll see how stylish a rider you are.
KAs usual, Matthew either talking through his pocket or his backside. Either way, not a clue about race riding or tactics. Give up, Matthew, before the men in white coats cotton on to you.
KWhere is Nathan Hughes when you need him? Surprised he hasn’t appeared along with his sparring partner Ken(West Derby). Perhaps they’ve eloped together.
Ah Gerald, these days the mods. undertake special training in developing their index finger delete skills. In fact, Cormack is now the fastest draw in the West.
Geordielad wrote:……. I’m terrified today that we may all have contribued to something terrible, shame on all of us
I think you’re confusing matters, Geordielad. Sounds like one of those headline quotes from when Princess Diana died.
As for changing your identity today. Is that because you’re living in fear that we might criticise you? Don’t get it?
Perplexed
Just wondering…was he known as a heavy gambler? Just seemed a coincidence that he went missing on Derby Day.
Barry asked….BTW didn’t see much wrong with g;whyte posts why banned ? seemed to know HF and associates as well as any on here.
Perhaps he was ruffling the wrong feathers, Barry. There was a time when this forum was prepared to be bold and unabashed with only mild rebuke given to people stepping out of line. Now it seems determined to create an anodised impression of being squeaky clean and above reproach. Cross the line once and you are expunged from history. A whiff of Stalinism pervades the air. Ever so boring and yet, judging by recent months’ contributors, attractive to a more downmarket type of participant.
KIronic that someone who appeared to be asking legitimate questions about the circumstances surrounding Findlay’s ban, should find himself banned from this forum. No doubt he was probably laying his own posts but perhaps a slap over the knuckles might have been a less draconian response. It would be interesting to know the exact nature of Grandwhyte’s offence(s).
K…all of mine have been tongue in cheek…
Bit of after-timing there PhD but I think a draw is a fair result. Now for the important stuff, England 4 USA 1
KSee what I mean? Typical layabout student reducing everything to the lowest common denominator. But, whereas you couldn’t answer my question my answer to your question is….you’d obviously know more about that than me, the big difference being that in your case it’s more likely to be called a head massage because part of your anatomy is where your brain should be.
K
p.s. Did your intellect not tell you that all of my posts on this thread have been tongue in cheek and not a true representation of my real feelings on Findlay’s crime and punishment?
K
By the way…University of LiverpoolPhD Student wrote…..or perhaps its just you could not cut the mustard for uni?
Okay Mr. Smarty Pants if you know so much about Theology and Philosophy tell me this….what happened before anything happened and what or who made it happen? See, you can’t answer that can you? Which is the point I’ve been making…that we spend so much money on maintaining Universities and yet when I ask a simple question to you it seems that you can’t give me a simple answer. It’s all very well reading books and learning what theologians and philosophers have written but when you’re confronted with a real fundamental issue you don’t have a clue, do you?
As for my academic experience, you only need to verify this with Nathan Hughes but I recently acquired a 2:1 in massage techniques having been tutored by Professor Natalie in Grimethorpe University of Relaxation where Grimes (of TRF infamy) is the Dean in Waiting.
Now stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
KPhD Student wrote… I pay for my own study, sorry that you admit a lack of intellect to understand what thats about…there is only one philosophical view that holds for Mr. Findlay, and that is AVARICE… (google it).
Do I take it that being ‘good to your mum’ is acceptable defence… perhaps the ‘Ma Barker’ family would agree..
PhD Student, since when has AVARICE been a philosophical school of thought? I thought it was more related to the Seven Deadly Sins.
However, I think you are confusing GREED with Harry’s desire to maintain the lifestyle that he has been accustomed to enjoying. The latter being borne out of necessity and can hardly be considered an unworthy pursuit. I imagine a percentage of his taxes goes towards maintaining those ivory towers that you sit in studying your navel.
As for being good to his mum, judge a man on what he does for others not on what he does for you.
KRory wrote……Jesus wept
Talk about bizarre posts, Rory! Now you’re telling us that the little baby Jesus is crying over Harry’s predicament? Surely you’re just having a laugh? I can’t believe that for one minute because if it really was true then don’t you think some divine intervention would have avoided Harry getting into this mess in the first place? I appreciate that you’re a decent guy Rory but don’t try and kid us that you have inside info. from Heaven. You ought to be ashamed of yourself trying to pull the wool over our eyes. Pray for forgiveness, Rory.
K
