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Spencer should be a bit more even handed – win or lose. When he was trotting up in the Irish Oaks on Sariska he seemed to be gloating and disrespectful to the other horses, jockeys and their connections by his hand and head gestures as he neared the winning post.
Also, I believe jockeys receive a small fee (£50) from C4 for their post race interviews. Even Ryan Moore!A petulant child in other words – crows when he wins and sulks when he loses. He’ll fit right in with the ‘premierisation’ of racing…
Seeing Fallon on Channel 4 reminded me of the way Anthony Powell, in one of his novels, describes a shifty looking waiter: ‘…his brow furrowed with a thousand petty indiscretions…’
I don’t think either of them did anything wrong. I just said I thought it was amusing to watch.
In-your-face brash ‘n’ banal talksportism bawled in estuarine english
I don’t think it has to be like that; but it should reflect the demographic that pumps the most money in. The only two presenters who are even close to getting it right are McCririck and ‘female’. The rest are drones.
Half of me agrees. The other half fears it could just as easily be a tabloid radio abomination.
Tabloid it would be, though not necessarily gutter. The main idea being it would be about punters and punting first and foremost, which is how the whole circus is kept going. Humour and contention could make racing livelier and more relevant. At the moment tv racing amounts to: betting market shows/cautious opinion/tight-lipped jockey and trainer ‘interview’/race/14 seconds of saturnine chat with winning connections and jockey/another ****ing advert for Dubai, life insurance for the near-to-death and Stanner Stairlifts/Process starts again. Punter TV would be more engaged. Presenters get down and punt in the ring with their own money (Rishi and Willy Carson going on about having a fiver on a horse makes me snarl); punters are given some air time (dicing with libel, but a five second delay can help), especially after a race where the bookie’s kept everyone’s money; let’s see some dirty cash in dirty hands; strident after-race analysis of the ‘
what’s going on there?
/What does he think
he’s
doing?’; let’s get into betting shops and witness some of the lunacy, sadness and glory going on in those places/ let people ring in, as they do about football, and have their say. At the moment it’s too ‘them and us’.
Mark Winstanley’s column in the Racing Post is a bit like it, combative and humorous but always sticking up for ‘our great sport’.I think a set-up like that would come under the heaviest censure from all angles but if it survived it would come to be feared and thus respected and therefore gain influence and finally the punter would have great media representation as opposed to the pisspoor situation today.
A middle way can be achieved, if the presenters entrusted with doing so are suitably adroit.
After 13 years of Blairism I no longer believe in ‘middle ways’.
Now, PUNTER NEWSPAPER doesn’t sound so far fetched.
If only the backing was available!
THE PUNTER as a website might rock. You could do it for fourpence and it would give the Post site a run for its half a loaf of bread…
It’s called courtesy, bettingboy. It’s the usual thing to extend to senior foreign diplomats who are keeping your country’s racing afloat. I think they should really call everyone "sir" (even Michael Tabor).
I don’t agree, but I accept it is a matter of opinion.
They don’t call Sea The Stars "sir" because he is a horse and would not understand
Do pay attention!
Eddie Ahern said this week in the Post about one of his rides: ‘I will be very disappointed if we don’t win’ That gets a nice tick.
Other than that, the last time I remember a trainer being anything more than pretty circumspect was when Paul Nicholls said ‘Lump on!’ about Kauto Star.How lovely would it have been to hear that!!!
I agree. You get snobs and egos in the press rooms but you also get some banter that would cut through the starchiness like a hot knife through butter.
I don’t like they way they call Hamdan Al Maktoum ‘sir’ on the TV. Why not Hamdam? They didn’t call Sea the Stars owner ‘sir’.
…although one of our most eminent members would find it repellent (but not for any moral reason), when a a selection you’ve backed has been given a rubbish ride, how refreshing it would be to hear the tv commentator shout: ‘That ******** jockey couldn’t ride my old granny!’
PUNTER TV, folks.
Result – The honest connections have to concede 18lbs to the "improver" who hasn’t tried a yard until today imo and get done on the line. They must be gutted, I wouldn’t blame them.
Pull the other one Harry…Gambler my ar*e.
Well said.
‘Pocket talk’ is often very acute, I find. Even if it’s just no more than calling the jockey or the horse a four letter word. It’s therapeutic. After all, the people doing their b*****s in betting shops are the ones who keep the game going for all the bookies, gamblers and city-boy owners.
I think Pricewise has his speciality and that is, as someone else said in this thread, big sprints. He’s tipped me enough value to command respect. However, although they turn in a fairly steady stream of winners you have to take the RP tipsters with a pinch of salt. They make some absurd reccomendations, but then we all do from time to time.
It’s OK, your ego will emerge triumphant – you can have the last word. As Nietzsche pointed out: when it’s pride versus memory, pride wins. A useful adage for gamblers, now I come to think about it…
Bye bye, old fruit.
PS: Next time you are repelled by something or decide to help somone or not help someone, ask yourself why and how you came to the decision. You might be in for a shock.
No matter, I await my sentence with trepidation.
I finished the case for the prosecution on that note because what you said was nonsense. Everyone has a moral an ethical framework. It might be the most psychopathically hideous framework, but everyone has one and you, dear boy, are no exception. Hitler had one, Ian Brady had one, Pol Pot had one and you’ve got one. It might be bad or it might be good but you’ve got one. Trust me.
May I suggest a new family motto for my lord Hughes: Minor volubilis magis ego scientia, which roughly translates as less lip and more self knowledge.JUDGE: It seems that Bettingboy’s case appears watertight, certainly if we call an emeritus professor of philosophy to the court. However, this court will not be too hard on Mr Hughes. He seems to be guilty of little more than wanting to appear frivolous AND intellectually sound at the same time. This is possible, of course, but only if you know what you’re talking about, which, in this sad case, it seems clear that Mr Hughes did not. I release him from the precincts of the court without charge. All rise!
