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What does anyone reckon to Pricewise???

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  • #12413
    naseby
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    Anyone got a good comment? know it’s stating the obvious, but curious. Thanks.

    #244234
    deltaman
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    He likes doing big field handicaps, it’s up to you to decide to bet on them, his longest losing run was MONTHS.

    #244237
    Gerald
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    This has got nothing to do with how good Pricewise is.

    I LIKE the idea of looking through the bigpriced horses to search out the ones that might be a good bet.

    I sometimes get the feeling that Pricewise picks a horse because there is a rick in the market, with one or two bookmakers being out of line with the others.

    In my unrealistic, naive kind the view the latter is sort of cheating.

    Also there is a pressure to pick a horse every day , or every Saturday, in the main race or the main h’cap. It would be honest if every now and again they said, sorry, couldn’t find anything.

    I haven’t bought the RP regularly for a decade, and I don’t look at the tips online, so my view doesn’t have any validity.

    #244283
    dave jay
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    Pricewise, like most other tipsters is a waste of time, imo.

    #244285
    davidjohnson
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    Tom Segal is a good tipster.

    #244287
    bettingboy
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    I think Pricewise has his speciality and that is, as someone else said in this thread, big sprints. He’s tipped me enough value to command respect. However, although they turn in a fairly steady stream of winners you have to take the RP tipsters with a pinch of salt. They make some absurd reccomendations, but then we all do from time to time.

    #244293
    endevour
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    Frankly would not touch his tips with a barge pole,in fact i have not had a bet when he tips a horse i fancy,some of his losing runs are long,but each to there own.

    #244297
    thedarkknight
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    Tom Segal is a good tipster.

    Agreed – and he is also a top bloke who doesn’t take himself too seriously – unusual in this game.

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    cormack15
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    Several years ago we ran a competition on the site where many of us took on Pricewise over an extended period of time (The Pricewise Challenge – a few of you may recall it).

    Pricewise did very well overall.

    Long losing runs are more or less inevitable, particularly when operating at longer prices. The acid test is level stakes profit/loss over an extended period.

    #244304
    Gingertipster
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    Pricewise (Tom Segal) is one of only a few "tipsters" worth taking notice of. (There are journalists worth reading / listening to their views, but I don’t class them as tipsters).

    Tom does have a big advantage over other newspaper tipsters; in that I believe he knows what price each horse is, before making his selection. It is very difficult for anyone to make a profit without knowing the odds. As value is everything. Even a good "tipster" might go for one he believes is going to be a 6/1 chance (because he believes it to be a true 9/2 chance); yet it could be top price 4/1 in the morning. So even the tipster himself would not back the horse at 4/1.

    Our own Prufrock (Simon Rowlands) might be able to tell us more about how newspaper tipsters work.

    Pricewise usually bets in big handicaps supposedly because that is the type of race he likes (also the type of race most punters like). Betting at biggish prices means a biggish chance of a long losing run. This can not be avoided. Even the best punter goes through a losing spell. It’s the average price comared to strike rate that matters.

    Some punters may think it is absurd to tip a 50/1 shot. But if Tom thinks it has a better than 2% chance, then it makes perfect sense to tip it.

    Tom Segal is a a great tipster.

    Value Is Everything
    #244333
    naseby
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    Thanks for the prompt reply all, keep up the good work on these forums, much appreciated, Naseby.

    #244356
    stilvi
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    Not bad, but over-rated.

    His record at major Festivals in recent seasons has been shocking.

    I appreciate that he has to get his selections in early but unlike most people he does not to work 9-5 and as he is usually looking to oppose the first few in the betting that can work to his advantage.

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    dave jay
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    What ever happened to Mel Collier?

    #244881
    davidjohnson
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    What ever happened to Mel Collier?

    I believe he set up a premium rate phone line but subscibed to the same ratings service as Henry Rix and virtually sent out the same horses as him. Now works for the Post as a giest coumnist on one day in the week. Wednesday perhaps?

    #244883
    rory
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    What ever happened to Mel Collier?

    I believe Mounty knows the answer to this.

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