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Mandarin Princess wins the opener at 50/1 and then it seems it is a different horse.
I’ve seen several tipsters on Twitter claiming to have backed/tipped it too, could get a bit messy and I dare say all bets will be refunded now as well
Tony McGlone has been on ATR being interviewed. Its now to be referred to the BHA for 14 days to lodge an objection.
But the result stands…. But they know it was the wrong horse..
Punters of the 2nd horse in the first race have been robbed blind!
We’re resettling the race as ‘Betting without Mandarin Princess’. If you backed the jolly, you win.
So if somebody knew what was happening put a few quid on the winner spread around to not cause alarm has now collected and had it right off
Interesting that Millys Kiss was declared a NR at 1409, I wonder what reason was given then ? But this wasn’t broken into the public domain for another hour or so
Surely the race has to be declared void if the wrong horse was in it!?!
Be a bit late Patriot, after the “weighed-in” am not sure how they can void a race. Bookies have already paid out.
Value Is EverythingIf I innocently put a fiver on Mandarin Princess and went to a bookies shop to collect now I wonder if I would get paid or not ?
Mandarin Princess wins the opener at 50/1 and then it seems it is a different horse.
I’ve seen several tipsters on Twitter claiming to have backed/tipped it too, could get a bit messy and I dare say all bets will be refunded now as well
Not “all bets refunded”, they just need to pay out on the second horse.
Value Is EverythingMandarin Princess wins the opener at 50/1 and then it seems it is a different horse.
I’ve seen several tipsters on Twitter claiming to have backed/tipped it too, could get a bit messy and I dare say all bets will be refunded now as well
Not “all bets refunded”, they just need to pay out on the second horse.
I was surprised at that, when they first announced it that was what was being said and now there are punters who have lost good money, what a shambles
If I innocently put a fiver on Mandarin Princess and went to a bookies shop to collect now I wonder if I would get paid or not ?
I don’t know the rules; but imo from the point of it being found out onwards imo those who’ve backed Mandarin Princess should only get their money back (ie treated as a non-runner).
Value Is EverythingMandarin Princess wins the opener at 50/1 and then it seems it is a different horse.
I’ve seen several tipsters on Twitter claiming to have backed/tipped it too, could get a bit messy and I dare say all bets will be refunded now as well
Not “all bets refunded”, they just need to pay out on the second horse.
I was surprised at that, when they first announced it that was what was being said and now there are punters who have lost good money, what a shambles
Punters who backed anything else – other than the second horse – were beaten by the second horse anyway, so why should they get their money back, Tony?
Value Is EverythingPunters who backed anything else – other than the second horse – were beaten by the second horse anyway, so why should they get their money back, Tony?
Given that the conditions of the race (and bet) weren’t as advertised then, in the mould of chaos theory, the circumstances of the outcome will have been altered immeasurably. Be they matters of pace, traffic, temperaments etc…
Punters who backed anything else – other than the second horse – were beaten by the second horse anyway, so why should they get their money back, Tony?
Given that the conditions of the race (and bet) weren’t as advertised then, in the mould of chaos theory, the circumstances of the outcome will have been altered immeasurably. Be they matters of pace, traffic, temperaments etc…
Fair point BH, could’ve changed things if the “winner” front run or got in the way of anything, or made another jockey change tactics… I can’t see anything like that in this particular race though. Not ideal, if it had been found out before the weigh-in I’d say void it. But in the circumstances think it’s fair enough to pay out on the “second” as the winner and the “third” for each way/place purposes. Personally, if I’d had a bet on an also-ran wouldn’t be feeling at all hard done by.
Value Is EverythingA very dangerous buckpass by the BHA imo. “The responsibility lies with the trainer to present and run the correct horse in the race.” Which means, in effect, “if someone saddles a ringer and pulls off a massive coup it’s nothing to do with us.”
A very dangerous buckpass by the BHA imo. “The responsibility lies with the trainer to present and run the correct horse in the race.” Which means, in effect, “if someone saddles a ringer and pulls off a massive coup it’s nothing to do with us.”
No, it doesn’t, Joe.
Just means what it says and is. It is the responsibility of the trainer (every trainer) to do things correctly.If someone breaks the law by mistake, is it their responsibility or the police?
Of course, the BHA should look in to whether they can do something that would stop it from happening again, which am sure they’ll do. Doesn’t mean it is anything other than the trainer’s responsibility to make sure they’ve got the right horse..
Value Is EverythingWhat the bookmakers are doing. https://www.racingpost.com/news/yarmouth-fiasco/what-action-the-bookies-are-taking/294574?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Thursday%20News&utm_content=Yarmouth%20bookmaker%20reaction
In fairness the bookmakers deserve some credit here. This is not their fault and this will be costing them money.
I believe the trainer should get a hefty fine and a suspension.
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