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    #469730
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    I think this is where Annie Power will run.
    Mullins has other options for the Champion and if it’s decent ground she surely gets done for toe.
    Several non stayers in this race at this level and after that race on New Years Day i can’t see an extra three furlongs stopping her.

    I think she’ll remain in both races until the week before but unless there’s a deluge, i see her lining up in this.

    Well not quite the week before but i’ve been getting Mullins horses pretty much spot on in recent years.

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    Woe is me and my 4/1 Big Buck’s who has to give her half a stone – a mare, as Ruby says, who’s built like a gelding. She must be one of the best bets ever at the Festival at 9/4 NRNB. Should think she’ll be closer to 1/1

    #469741
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    Over the moon to see her declared here, I had £100 on NRNB at avg odds 5.5 back in January when starting this thread. Not the biggest of banks here so its my biggest possible payout of the festival, just ahead of £16 EW on Last Installment @ 50/1 :twisted:

    Anybody think the bookies may take BB on later in the week with some specials? Might lay a little off if thats the case.

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    I wouldn’t want to back her, let alone call her one of the Chelt bankers of all time.

    If Big Bucks runs to his best form, its Annie Power whom has it to prove over C&D.

    I’m gutted Solwhit isn’t there, would have got a cracking price on him with AP and BB in the field.

    #469928
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    I wouldn’t want to back her, let alone call her one of the Chelt bankers of all time.

    If Big Bucks runs to his best form, its Annie Power whom has it to prove over C&D.

    I’m gutted Solwhit isn’t there, would have got a cracking price on him with AP and BB in the field.

    I wholeheartedly agree. She hasn’t even run over 3 miles yet, and is shorter in the betting than one of best staying hurdlers in history! Ok he still has a bit to prove after his comeback, but knowhere near as much as a horse who hasn’t run over the distance before, let alone race against a genuine Grade 1, specialist 3 miler. She could well hose up, but how can anyone say she is banker material against a horse of Big Bucks calibre? There’s also a few other horses in there that are no mugs, so banker? Don’t see it myself.

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    I just have a feeling that this so called heavyweight clash is going to end in a damp squib and something else will pop up, possibly Rule The World?

    My money was down for Big Bucks pre-season and I was fairly satisfied with his comeback, however the vibes coming from PFN are more of hope than expectation as the days tick by. As for Annie, as said, she could dot up, but as with Oscar Whisky, that extra half mile is one hell of a long way in a championship race.

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    I wouldn’t want to back her, let alone call her one of the Chelt bankers of all time.

    If Big Bucks runs to his best form, its Annie Power whom has it to prove over C&D.

    I’m gutted Solwhit isn’t there, would have got a cracking price on him with AP and BB in the field.

    I wholeheartedly agree. She hasn’t even run over 3 miles yet, and is shorter in the betting than one of best staying hurdlers in history! Ok he still has a bit to prove after his comeback, but knowhere near as much as a horse who hasn’t run over the distance before, let alone race against a genuine Grade 1, specialist 3 miler. She could well hose up, but how can anyone say she is banker material against a horse of Big Bucks calibre? There’s also a few other horses in there that are no mugs, so banker? Don’t see it myself.

    Indeed. Could well end up being another Irish Xmas hurdle scenario, AP = OC, BB = HF. Only in racing are people obsessed with finding fault with existing proven Champions and exaggerating the achievements of up and comers.

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    Think I’m going to back the PN third string [Salubrious?]. I did very well with Celestial Halo last year. Was looking towards Monksland but I doubt if he’ll run now

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    I’ve got not indication that annie power wont stay. when she got to zarkander at ascot she powered away…I think she has a massive chance in this a 6 year old mare whos improving.Destroyed zarkander at cheltenham a past triumph winner.I agree that previous cheltenham winners need to always be looked at.But with big bucks he would never off let them past him wen he jumped the last in front on his comeback run.Anno hes been off for a long time.But people who backed him at 5-4 that day i couldn’t understand the lodgic.When surely it was best to see him win then you prob could still get 5-4 for a world hurdle.im all over annie power in the world hurdle i truly believe shes a wonder mare

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    I was pleasantly surprised at how well Big Buck’s performed on his re-appearance. Because of that, I decided there and then that the horse was still capable of winning another World Hurdle.

    Big Buck’s can win the day. 8)

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    #470071
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    I’m not denying that potentially she’s a superstar, but the reason I’m opposing is because of a couple of things. One….she’s not beaten a a true stayer yet, hasn’t raced over three miles, so it’s only conjucture that she stays.
    Secondly, I honestly believe she has only ended up in this race so that Mullins can try and go down in history with Quevega and Hurricane Fly. The way Quevega just managed to win last year, tells me Annie Power would slaughter her based on that performance. If she really is as good as everyone say she is, then why oh why is she not running in the champion hurdle?
    Champion Hurdle or Mares Hurdle are the distances she has raced over to date, so why step her up to three miles first time in a Grade 1 championship race to find out if she stays?
    Could easily break her, Big Bucks could easily break her heart at the end of the race.
    Nicholls has said all along, there’s only one race that matters for this horse, and I don’t think he’s any mug when he says things like that. Look at Kauto Star for instance. Everyone wrote him off before he came back to win the Betfair and the King George. I still cannot fathom why she’s ahead of him in the market. The price based on potential alone over a gruelling 3 miles? Not for me.

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    The way Quevega just managed to win last year, tells me Annie Power would slaughter her based on that performance.

    She might slaughter that Quevegea, but would she slaughter the one that romped home in Punchestown? The Mares’ Hurdle has only been a prep for Punchestown in recent years but this year I’d say she’ll strip fitter.

    #470073
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    The way Quevega just managed to win last year, tells me Annie Power would slaughter her based on that performance.

    She might slaughter that Quevegea, but would she slaughter the one that romped home in Punchestown? The Mares’ Hurdle has only been a prep for Punchestown in recent years but this year I’d say she’ll strip fitter.

    That’s a good question, but my answer to that would be, you can’t tell as that race is also over three miles. She hasn’t been that far yet. So I would say, yes she would be Quevega at 2 and a half, but at three? Can’t honestly say.

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    I think that Paul Nicholls is learning his lessons after a few sub-par festivals and trying to extract every possible edge from his contenders this year.

    I believe that Celestial Halo, Sam Winner, Dodging Bullets, Big Buck’s and maybe even Al Ferof were a little undercooked on their Cheltenham prep runs, just like Kauto Star was in the AON Chase before he won his first Gold Cup. As Nicholls said that year, it was all about Cheltenham, he couldn’t give a toss if Kauto lost at Newbury.

    I am certainly not saying that all of those horses will win, but they will improve dramatically when they run next week. Big Buck’s certainly finished a little timidly on his reappearance, which has never been in his running style before. He is still the one to beat.

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    The way Quevega just managed to win last year, tells me Annie Power would slaughter her based on that performance.

    She might slaughter that Quevegea, but would she slaughter the one that romped home in Punchestown? The Mares’ Hurdle has only been a prep for Punchestown in recent years but this year I’d say she’ll strip fitter.

    That’s a good question, but my answer to that would be, you can’t tell as that race is also over three miles. She hasn’t been that far yet. So I would say, yes she would be Quevega at 2 and a half, but at three? Can’t honestly say.

    My point is not about race distance but that last year’s Mares’ Hurdle is not a true reflection of Quevega’s ability imo.

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    I know big bucks is a amazing horse and is the best staying hurdler off all time.But to say hes the one to beat dosen’t make sense to me.Hes a 11 year old and i was bitterly dissapointed with his come back run.Big bucks has always reminded me off a horse that finds a way to win no matter what!.He couldn’t on his reapperance yes i know he hadnt run for 420 days but this will be his second run back in a fiercely competitve world hurdle hes just not for me i just dont believe he is the same orse we will find out on the 13th!

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