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  • #26735
    harvey2000
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    Any confirmation if Beat That is being aimed for this or a chasing career yet? If they wait another season for fences I can see this horse being a big player for this.

    #490795
    Anonymous
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    It’s an annoying time of year, trying to do early Cheltenham work is made so much harder by not knowing who’s sticking with the hurdles and who’s going chasing!

    #490852
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    NJH sends Whisper over fences so backed Beat That at double figure prices in the week. :D

    #492282
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    More of That stays over hurdles; is it just a case of turning up?

    #492926
    Gdc1
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    I thought as much but Briars Hill could be the one to make him go :-)

    #492950
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    I thought as much but Briars Hill could be the one to make him go :-)

    Possibly but money for Faugheen with us this afternoon; 10s from 14s.

    Juggling job for Mullins..

    #495790
    Gdc1
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    Zarkandar will run a better race, the Nicholls team have realised he needs a long break between races – good EW shot

    #496881
    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    Cole Harden ran a fine World Hurdle trial today, probably going off just a yard too fast in that ground. At 5, he’s given the 7-y-o winner (who got a cannier ride and was on one of his good days) 8lbs, and must be exceptional value at 33s with Paddy Power.

    #496884
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    Jonjo being Jonjo today, More of That will repeat last years win!

    #496906
    Gdc1
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    Looking more and more like Jonjo only wants Cheltenham winners – come on bookies push out More of That to 5s :-)

    #499983
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    There’s a massive trial for this at Cheltenham tomorrow.

    Vaniteux gets weight from Rock On Ruby, Cole Harden and the returning Beat That. Tinkler rides Beat That and Barry G rides Vaniteux. Beat That is the one to watch in my opinion. If he can come back to be third or fourth despite the non-ideal conditions, weight concession and fitness worries, he’ll probably be my World Hurdle horse. He’ll probably be pushed out a little too.

    #500060
    fivelongdays
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    With Harry Fry all but confirming Rock On Ruby will go in this, does anyone else think that 14s on offer represent a rather nice EW price?

    Horse who’s usually there or thereabouts at the track, in decent form, not exactly a mega-vintage crop of staying hurdlers, will surely be a heck of a lot less on the day…I like it.

    Twitter=@PGHenn

    So don't run, just like the others always do

    #500063
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    With Harry Fry all but confirming Rock On Ruby will go in this, does anyone else think that 14s on offer represent a rather nice EW price?

    Horse who’s usually there or thereabouts at the track, in decent form, not exactly a mega-vintage crop of staying hurdlers, will surely be a heck of a lot less on the day…I like it.

    You beat me to it. He seems to have found some real zest, loves Cheltenham,looks a probable runner and will be half the price or shorter on the day.

    I’ve backed Cole Harden at 33 for the WH and he got a very odd ride today (after drifting in the betting). Trainer did not indicate a change of tactics when interviewed a minute before the race "They’ll all know they’ve been in a race". But he surrendered his key asset from the outset by staying with the filed rather than trying to make it a real test. Strange for a proven stayer with a storming front-running style.

    #500064
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    Awfully disappointing from Beat That, even allowing for weakness in the market and being so keen early. He’d smash Cole Harden at his best, which is a measure of how badly he underperformed.

    Rock On Ruby is an interesting horse and one I still haven’t figured out. Harry Fry said he was always a staying two-miler, yet he travelled better than most in his Champion Hurdle win and outpaced some speedy types from a less-than-breakneck pace.

    He also seemingly failed to stay in testing 2m 4f+ races as a young horse. Perhaps his class just got him through today. Like Hardy Eustace and Brave Inca, he might be winning staying events through sheer backclass but will be exposed as a non-stayer when forced to go for three miles in a championship event.

    #500097
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    TYF, if it weren’t for the anticipated presence of Cole Harden, I wouldn’t be that concerned about RoR getting the trip, as I recall some stat claiming World Hurdles are rarely run at a hot pace. Also, he won with quite a bit in hand today and you know the saying about age bringing a helping of stamina with it. 14s looks big.

    #500100
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    The World Hurdle has a solid knack of finding out the non-stayers. Many have tried to get away with being a little soft, but none have got home.

    Oscar Whisky, Sentry Duty, Hardy Eustace, Annie Power and Kasbah Bliss all tried and couldn’t last home. Some of them even won today’s race. With Reve De Sivola in the race, especially given the way he won the Long Walk, there will probably be one the fastest paces in years.

    #500110
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    I didn’t think Vaniteux paid much of a compliment to The New One today.

    Given that some people expected the step up in trip to suit him today, I found it disappointing he couldn’t beat Rock On Ruby at the weights.

    Rock On Ruby loves Cheltenham but he’s ten years old now and the proximity of Olofi, rated only 137, doesn’t make it look a great race.

    Did Vaniteux really get home today? I thought he looked a bit tired on the run-in and having been 6 lengths in front of Olofi when running behind The New One, he was only half that margin ahead today, not really suggesting that the step up in trip helped.

    Nicky Henderson has said that they will look for better ground and a different track for Vaniteux, not exactly indicators that stamina is his forte.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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