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Pure speculation really, but, if the track isn’t harrowed regularly,(as the Clerk of the Course indicated it wasn’t, in a reply to Stav printed on this forum), then could it be down to compaction?<br> On the tightest of the all weather tracks, almost all of the traffic is within 3 horse widths of the inside rail, which means that on an 8 race card parts of the track will be raced over 11/12 times in a single meeting, which is bound to make the surface inconsistent at best?
As a consequence of these worries is it going to affect results and the way that races are run? Will jockeys think twice about a daring run up the inside? Will they be delaying the horses spurt (finish) until they are onto the home straight? If so what does this mean for punters? Will it be better to be up with the pace as closers are worried about trying to make up ground to early and therefore leaving their mounts with too much to do? Confidence if everything to me and if jockeys arenfidnet it needs to be closed unitl the issue is resolved.
This is a quote from the Racing Post:<br>Jockey Hayley Turner <br>“It is happening so often that it is a worry. The track is riding a lot quicker than usual and is becoming a bit of a hazard. It has been mild and the track has not be harrowed as much as usual, which may or may not be a factor and many more are thinking the same…<br>If the jockeys have any sense the will not ride there until the course has been seen to….
Quote: from FlatSeasonLover on 12:28 am on Dec. 13, 2006[br] If so what does this mean for punters? <br>
<br>is that all you can think about? Not all people are into the money side, what about the owner of the horse, the owners of last nights horse are very nice people, who are upset (friend used to work at Stan Moores) and what about the lad/lass who looks after these horses, they get distraught, they live and breath these beautiful creatures…<br>Wolverhampton is tight, but not as tight as some of the American tracks that have polytrack and they have less injuries….
No its not all I think about but without punters there wouldn’t be horse racing. Before taking the moral high ground please look at it this way. If punters get ripped off, they don’t bet. If they don’t bet then courses and bookies go bankrupt. If they go bankrupt then there will be no more racing. If you read my contribution to other threads you will realise also that I think about more than punters.
The only sensible thing to do is close the course with immediate affect – and undergo a full investigation.
not all courses, most now are privatley owned, by arena or othe companies…I know they get some money back.<br>I did not mean that in a bad way, so please dont have a go at me, I was just stating there is more to it than betting..I have worked in the Horse Racing industry for over 20 years…<br>anyway back to the subject…<br>I think they need to look into it a lot deeper, and until any issue is raised close the track..
Wolverhampton have 4 more meetings before Christmas, next one is tomorrow, which in my opinion should be boycotted, safety of the horse and jockey should come first…
This is quoted from the Racing Post:
<br>CLERK of the course Fergus Cameron on Tuesday night expressedconfidence that Wolverhampton is fit for racing today, despite Monday’s five-horse pile-up, the latest in a spate of recent falls at the track.
Among those present to monitor events will be HRA inspector of courses Nick Carlisle, while jockeys’ safetyofficer, Dale Gibson, who has a mount in the opening race, said he had no reservations about riding.
Following six incidents in five weeks, trainer Gay Kelleway has claimed “someone is going to get killed unless something is done about itâ€ÂÂ
If trainers/owners are happy to declare their horses then surely racing should continue as there is no proof whatsoever that events have been caused by the nature of the track.
Corect DJ
<br>What do people expect clerk to do, wave a magic wand and say i’ve sorted it, when like everyone else, he ain’t a clue what problem is
Just out of interest, it was reported of Midlands News this morning that animal rights groups are calling for an imediate suspention of all action at Wolves, pending investigations.
You cannot compare a incidents like this to a tuft track or jumping,
Why not?
You compared the surface to Good to Firm
Anyway enough from me
<br>Just been stated on Sky, Dale’s Gibson is happy to ride so there yer go
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(Edited by empty wallet at 7:57 am on Dec. 13, 2006)
Welcome to the forum Racingirluk.
After the latest incident this week I was suprised the meeting was allowed to continue.<br>I saw the race on atr and was suprised no jockey was not killed.<br>As usual the betfair forum excelled :angry: with a claim that<br>’I hoped the favourite broke his leg as I had backed it’
Quote: from empty wallet on 7:45 am on Dec. 13, 2006[br]You cannot compare a incidents like this to a tuft track or jumping,
Why not?
You compared the surface to Good to Firm
Anyway enough from me
<br>Just been stated on Sky, Dale’s Gibson is happy to ride so there yer go
<br>(Edited by empty wallet at 7:57 am on Dec. 13, 2006)<br>
Cause a turf track rides completley different and a jump track has jumps and has different kind of injuries….I have ridden on turf and AW and both ride differntly, I only said good to firm has it was the nearest thing, I could have said like a road…
It would not surprise me if people like Animal aid are going to be there, they will do anything to destroy racing, this is just more fuel in the fire
I agree. The animal welfare folk will be loving this, the racing needs suspended for a while, at least until its not a story anymore.
The bookies should be calling a halt to it, even if they can do 5% a runner .. the long term damage could cost them more in the long run.
Here’s some info, Wolves runs
Money for Fun, Oct 30th – Dec 1st – Dec 11th
Mantle, Aug31st –  Oct 2nd – Nov 16th
Montage, Oct 2nd – Oct14 – Nov 17th
<br>Now do you expect people to believe that the surface has deteriortate in such a short space of time causing these injuries without there being some sort of evidence
(Edited by empty wallet at 8:57 am on Dec. 13, 2006)
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