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  • #47992
    LetsGetRacing
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    I’ll be backing Cusoon as a matter of course, but the possibility of a lack of pace is worrying if only having him on my side.

    The only other two that really appeal are Gentleman’s Deal and Alfie Flits, with slight preference for the former. There is a lot to like about Flits, who has an edge of class about him, but the ten furlong trip might just be too sharp (though he ran well over it at Sandown behind Kandidate last year).

    #47993
    Avatar photoBurroughhill
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    I’m on Cusoon too. Quite a good draw. Why is Sri Diamond out though?

    #47995
    Grimes
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    My first choice is Gentlemans’s Deal, but I also have a liking for Clive Brittain’s Hattan at 10s.

    #47996
    FlatSeasonLover
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    Sri Diamond is out as he suffered a late setback (an infection in his leg)

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    #48000
    Avatar photoUltimate Nightmare
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    Cusoon,Blue Bajan,Cimyla & GD make it between the 4. Ifs with most of these too though, as has been said though with a properly run race Cusoon by a sh ;) .

    #48001
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    If you fancy GD in this, you have to consider Grand Passion over this trip.  Saying that, I’d love Blue Bajan to win this, but stall one is a complete nightmare.

    #48003
    Avatar photoJim JTS
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    Here’s my take on the Winter Derby which looks a bit of a nightmare to be honest, it could end up a muddling sort of race but here goes anyway…

    <br>ALFIE FLITS (7) (First time trying the surface, trip could be on the sharp side on seasonal reappearance, has ability but best watched on this occasion)

    BLUE BAJAN (1) (Unlucky not to have beaten Cusoon last time, Cusoon was fitter having had a few runs, Blue Bajan should reverse the form with Cusoon with that run under his belt, ought to go close, his Cambridgeshire run last year behind Formal Decree also reads well)

    BOO (8) (Not shown much recently and I’d be surprised if good enough)

    CIMYLA (6) (Another not shown much in recent runs at Nad Al Sheba but could go well at decent odds if back on song)

    CUSOON (3) (In fine form and will run his race but I prefer Blue Bajan to gain his revenge)

    GENTLEMAN’S DEAL (4) (First run here but has won on polytrack at Kempton, trip a slight worry but is in form and should run well)

    GRAND PASSION (2) (Similar chance to Gentleman’s Deal but will like the trip, a bit in and out formwise and hasn’t won in ten races, lively longshot for a place if on a going day)

    HATTAN (10) (Win record not good but has been running well at Nad Al Sheba, not best drawn and a place is best he can hope for)

    ILLUSTRIOUS BLUE (9) (Another who runs here for the first time but has won at Kempton on the surface, also won last time at Nad Al Sheba so comes here in good form, one of the likelier ones)

    MIGHTY (12) (Has improved over the winter and would have to improve again, was outpaced against Cusoon last time after beating that rival previously in a tactical affair, isn’t drawn well in 12 so is overlooked, a horse I like though)

    ORCHARD SUPREME (5) (Likes the polytrack but is a bit in and out formwise, could find trouble in running again as he has done on a few occasions)

    SPEEDY SAM (11) (Behind Orchard Supreme last time and doesn’t look up to this)

    1. Blue Bajan<br>2. Illustrious Blue<br>3. Cusoon<br>4. Grand Passion

    Now watch it all go tits up :biggrin:

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    #48005
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    Quote: from FlatSeasonLover on 9:49 pm on Mar. 22, 2007[br]Sri Diamond is out as he suffered a late setback (an infection in his leg)

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    <br>Thanks, what a shame.

    #48006
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    Mmm,

    if i were the trainer of Gentlemans Deal , i’d tell my pilot to take the bull by the horns, get to the front, dictate the pace, start  getting  my fella into full swing from around  3f  home and say ta, ta to the rest and play  catch me if you can

    (Edited by empty wallet at 1:27 pm on Mar. 23, 2007)

    #48007
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    And if I were Alan Swinbank, I’d tell Spencer to track him.:biggrin:

    #48009
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    Your tactics wil still  only result in your horse being placed DJ ;) :)

    #48011
    Avatar photoUltimate Nightmare
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    i might be changing my mind :biggrin: , swap it for one that works.:o

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    doyley
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    Hello,

    Good summing up Jim, the more I look at it, the more difficult it appears…may only deal in small money, but on what? Still think ORCHARD SUPREME could be the surprise package, but not a mortgage job!:)

    regards,

    doyley

    #48014
    davidjohnson
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    Please don’t think this is spam but for anyone interested, there is a preview of the Winter Derby on Timeform Website that includes free timeform comments/ratings and full perspective text of all the runners.

    (Edited by davidjohnson at 7:42 pm on Mar. 23, 2007)

    #48015
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    Cheers DJ

    Wonder if there’s gonna be a  " Lingfield brunch"  on BF radio for this excellent AW meeting

    #48017
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    Hattan for me just got this feeling he is going to win.

    #48018
    class tells
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    yes hatton with 15 yes 15 group 1,2 or 3 runs under his belt 6th in the derby class must tell here with big timer in the previous the belmont flop

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