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    We’re currently looking for a new addition and I’ve been scouring sellers and claimers. On the AW there are one, two and sometimes three sellers/claimers on a card but on the NH cards you’re lucky to get two or three selling/claiming hurdles in a week.

    Has there been a reduction in this sort of contest over recent years and if so does anyone know the reason?

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    There are plenty in France, and I know of several good ones out of french claimers.

    I understand Guy Petit is a very good french agent at this sort of level, he is well worth his modest fee as he sorts the wheat from the chaff.

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    Now you mention it there don’t seem to be that many around at the moment, particularly of the non handicap variety, although I’ve not taken any time to go back and check to see if the calendar has changed that much. I think they do crop up more in the summer, but Newton Abbot doesn’t have one next week, which must be a rarity for them.

    I think it’s been discussed a few times on here before, but i don’t see why they can’t stage more Selling/Claiming chases, at the moment they seem to crop up about once a month, personally I love them!

    The Which Doctor is entered for £9,000 in a 1m2f claimer at Lingfield on Monday, I could see him picking up a few novices’ round The Abbot and Worcester in the summer :wink:

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    Stratford runs selling hurdles on Mar 9th, Mar 26th and Apr 1st – that seems the most appropriate course for your group to be buying.

    Also Fakenham on Gold Cup day and Exeter on Mar 22nd.

    A more valuable selling hurdle is set for Haydock on Mar 23rd, with £7,500 in prize money, a minimum bid of £7,500 and a claiming price of £18,000. The conditions for this race also include just about the most unlikely clause I’ve ever seen in a selling hurdle:

    HAYDOCK PARK RACECOURSE will provide a bonus of £10,000 to the
    connections of the winning horse in this race, should the same
    horse go on to win either a race at the Aintree April 2011
    Meeting or The totesport Swinton Hurdle run at Haydock Park on
    May 7th, 2011.

    That would seem to suggest that if you win the Haydock seller and somebody else then takes over the horse and manages the unlikely feat of winning at Aintree, the bonus goes to the original owner, not the purchaser.

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    Correction – the first Stratford seller is on Mar 14th. The one on Mar 9th is at Catterick.

    Molon Labe in the Catterick entries might be interesting – 60 rated on the flat, only a 4-y-old and he’s never been tried on the AW, but his sire has a 13% strike rate on the sand.

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    A more valuable selling hurdle is set for Haydock on Mar 23rd, with £7,500 in prize money, a minimum bid of £7,500 and a claiming price of £18,000. The conditions for this race also include just about the most unlikely clause I’ve ever seen in a selling hurdle:

    HAYDOCK PARK RACECOURSE will provide a bonus of £10,000 to the
    connections of the winning horse in this race, should the same
    horse go on to win either a race at the Aintree April 2011
    Meeting or The totesport Swinton Hurdle run at Haydock Park on
    May 7th, 2011.

    That would seem to suggest that if you win the Haydock seller and somebody else then takes over the horse and manages the unlikely feat of winning at Aintree, the bonus goes to the original owner, not the purchaser.

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    Joe Jo Star could have been a candidate 2 or 3 years ago, won the Swinton and placed at Aintree after being beaten in a selling hurdle.

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    Yeats,

    His name did occur to me, by I reckon even the Ipso Facto team might have found it difficult to go from selling hurdle to Aintree in the space of two weeks.

    It’s the unlikelihood of a horse with a rating high enough to get a run at Aintree turning up in a seller a fortnight earlier that seems to make Haydock’s money pretty safe.

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    Stratford runs selling hurdles on Mar 9th, Mar 26th and Apr 1st – that seems the most appropriate course for your group to be buying.

    Also Fakenham on Gold Cup day and Exeter on Mar 22nd.

    A more valuable selling hurdle is set for Haydock on Mar 23rd, with £7,500 in prize money, a minimum bid of £7,500 and a claiming price of £18,000. The conditions for this race also include just about the most unlikely clause I’ve ever seen in a selling hurdle:

    HAYDOCK PARK RACECOURSE will provide a bonus of £10,000 to the
    connections of the winning horse in this race, should the same
    horse go on to win either a race at the Aintree April 2011
    Meeting or The totesport Swinton Hurdle run at Haydock Park on
    May 7th, 2011.

    That would seem to suggest that if you win the Haydock seller and somebody else then takes over the horse and manages the unlikely feat of winning at Aintree, the bonus goes to the original owner, not the purchaser.

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    Thanks, Alan. I’ll certainly have a look at those although we’ve already got one we’re lining up for a novice hurdle at Stratford :wink:

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    We came very close to buying My Brother Sylvest yesterday at Stratford. We made the owner an offer as we didn’t think he was worth claiming for £7K but it was turned down.

    We’ll see what the seller on March 26th throws up.

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    Westlin’ Winds looks a surprising entry in the claiming hurdle at Southwell on Thursday unless he’s developed a physical problem. Anyone have any information on him?

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    I think it’s been discussed a few times on here before, but i don’t see why they can’t stage more Selling/Claiming chases, at the moment they seem to crop up about once a month, personally I love them!

    Sing it, brother. 8)

    They’re not even as often as monthly now, alas, and I notice the example that had been programmed on the Friday of the Scottish National meeting for the last few years has now been replaced by a fifth hurdle (to go with two remaining chases) on the afternoon. Bah.

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    Not even the selling handicap chase at Plumpton over easter, far from putting more on they appear to be getting rid of the few we did have, no imagination at all. I want to see more veterans chases, particularly at a lower level, not looking likely though. I used to like the 0-90 classified hurdles/chases too, more variety would be good please.

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    We came very close to buying My Brother Sylvest yesterday at Stratford. We made the owner an offer as we didn’t think he was worth claiming for £7K but it was turned down.

    We’ll see what the seller on March 26th throws up.

    This post is coming back to haunt me now following My Brother Sylvest’s third win in just over a week, making all again to win eased down. :roll:

    #374327
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    Saw the updated post on this and made mne think of Tobert Gibb. Then saw he posted penultimately back in April on this. Robert, if u r out there pop a post up as bechers brook blog has dissapeared and a few of the linked blogs have also speculated around what’s happened to you? Gone to subscription only? If so can understand but do miss reading your muses at lunchtime at work!!

    Hope everything ok and be great if you could post

    All the best

    yorkiedips

    #375108
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    Missing RG’s thoughts still about these type of races.

    Tuffers – Thanks for the info and if you are in contact with him, wish him all the best and good luck with everything over the next few months including the jumps horse syndicates.

    yorkiedips

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