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  • #1757254
    moehat
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    I see what you mean. This war is affecting everybody. On top of that what on earth are these wars doing to the environment with the bombs, oil spills from sunk ships and cities raised to rubble and needing to be rebuilt.

    #1757255
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    All of which are a small price to pay to keep Netanyahu out of jail, which is what this illegal war is really about.

    #1757257
    Avatar photoEx RubyLight
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    Trump needs the war too.
    a) for his super-rich friends to make more money on the stock exchanges
    b) for himself to escape the Epstein files

    #1757565
    homersimpson
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    Ridiculous comments from Trump. We are sending the aircraft carriers for our own security dickhead.

    Starmer must be doing something right if Trump’s fallen out with him.

    Yes Donald it was you who said you would start no wars whilst in the White House.

    I don’t know if I can put up with another 3 years of this ****.

    #1757575
    Avatar photoDrone
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    Agreed Homer.

    Why does anyone pay the slightest attention to what Trump says? Mercurial, capricious, volatile, inconsistent, fickle…it’s inconsequential claptrap that changes tack on an almost daily basis.

    The media seem obsessed with dissecting his every word, with particular reference at present to the ‘special relationship’ and it’s possible demise. Easy, trite reportage from those overworked hacks Phil Space and Phillippa Column.

    Don’t concern yourself Starmer et al, just mutter some bland platitudes somewhere down the line and Trump will be your bestie again.

    A relationship that was always largely one-sided anyway: do what we want you to do Little England and we’ll continue to hold your hand.

    It’s what Trump actually does that matters: this war being the case in point.

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    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    The fact the severe right are losing their **** confirms Starmer is doing the right thing , Trump wants followers and these latest actions are seeing more wandering off his path , that prayer propaganda is one of the worst things I’ve seen in years , God save Americax10000 , America has no right to be saved by anyone

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    #1757581
    value31
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    I agree with many of the above posts. Like the others I am sick and tired of reading Trump’s obscene language. Starmer does the right thing by ignoring the moron. If only our ignorant right wing press would do the same.

    As for Blair, saying we should do exactly what the USA wants us to do as we rely on them for security, I think he must have lost his marbles. As we all know, Trump has made it clear that the USA is no longer obliged to help anybody. Does Blair not understand that ‘America First’ means exactly that? America cares for America and nobody else.

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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    The irony, of course, is that the very same Fleet Street hacks who wanted Brexit for “sovereignty” purposes now want us to blindly follow a petulant man-child.

    Sovereignty, eh? 🤔

    #1758246
    Richard88
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    Oh look, all of a sudden Badenoch and Farage are against the war. That’s the same Badenoch and Farage who along with the right wing press were practically begging us to go in two footed and studs out. Criticism of the U turns incoming I assume? Imagine the mess we’d be in if they were in power and blindly followed Trump in?

    Suddenly they are pretending to care about the impact on the cost of living that the war they supported will have. The refugees haven’t even started arriving yet. Complete and utter clueless clowns.

    More likely they’ve finally realised that public opinion is not going to reverse on this but in the case of Farage I wonder if it’s anything to do with being snubbed by his mate Donald after loudly proclaiming he was off there to have dinner with him?

    #1758259
    moehat
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    And people on another form I’m on that have criticised Starmer right from the start and even a couple of weeks ago were calling for him to go are now admitting that they’re actually glad to have someone like him as PM at a time of crisis.If they’d had their way we would be in the middle of a leadership contest now.

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    Avatar photoPurwell
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    The USA bases in the UK and, indeed in Europe generally are not for our defence, they are first line of defence for the East Coast of mainland USA.

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    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
    #1758683
    value31
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    The fact is that at this critical time it is even more important to have an educated, rational and calm PM. We are lucky to have Starmer. We really would be in a massive mess if Boris or Farage were our PM.

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    Avatar photoDrone
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    Following a bit of research into the Strait of Hormuz I’ve discovered that the shipping lanes deep enough to permit passage of oil supertankers are just 6 miles wide: two miles wide inbound, two miles buffer zone and two miles outbound.

    The depth is 60-100m and the draught of a fully laden supertanker around 30m, so it seems that if just a few of the stricken ships (with more to come probably) currently stationary in the shipping lanes were to sink then the entire strait would be rendered too shallow and be closed indefinitely until complex salvage operations could be undertaken.

    Iran would, as it were, be shooting itself in its foot by trying to sink ships as it too requires the strait for oil exports but desperate times lead to desperate measures…

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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Trump is now calling for “allies” to help him out.

    You made your bed, Donald, so sleep in it.

    #1760023
    Richard88
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    I’m old enough to remember when Trump was telling us that the war was already won and that they didn’t need any help.

    Yet still some political commentators hang on his every word, when it suits their agenda at least. There is barely any point listening to a word he says, he’s a mentally unstable man-child whose mood changes with the tides and whether he’s getting his way or not.

    It is just a shame that much of the rest of the world has to lie in the bed he’s made, to a greater or lesser extent.

    #1760024
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Whatever Trump says the opposite is reality , the white house will still declare job done and move on shortly leaving a new young extremely angry ayatollah in charge looking for revenge , never mind the furious state countries who are losing Billions in lost leisure revenue , Trump sure knows how to make enemies , still no one has ever dared to carry out atrocities on US soil have they ….

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    #1760028
    nwalton
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    Not a trump lover but the ‘allies’ should help tankers get through if not don’t moan about prices going up and as for the comment we are lucky to have starmer that did make me chuckle
    Happy mother’s day btw

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