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Have backed DEE EX BEE the last time…he was very very impressive from my point of view. With normal improvement on the Cards i expect him to win readily and go on to much better things….
I have done the double with Barney and a trixie with Barney and Cracksman.
We will see
I did Threading in the Lowther at 5/1 as well and doubled them up. Threading won so easily last time, and although the ground was soft, she has a low enough action and is by Exceed And Excel. She looks very interesting against an uninspiring looking field with some very exposed O’Brien ones entered up.
Maybe these two will prove hard to catch and gallop all the way to the line.
If the Yank stays well enough over the 6f and gets its ground, it will win by 4 lengths.
In fact, if the ground is good or good to firm, it’s looking like my main bet of the week. Either him or Thomas Hobson in the Lonsdale.
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The sixth furlong is the big question for Happy Like A Fool. She was ultimately outstayed by Heartache at Royal Ascot over 5F and made her debut ove 4.5 Furlongs. York should suit but if the rains come, she will be a big lay for me. Already 4/1 tells us that she’s not a penalty kick in the layer’s minds.
If Dee Ex Bee wins today and there is soft in the ground for the Lowther, Threading will surely be popular. We shall see.
The Timeform preview goes for the Haggas filly Special Purpose, with Threading next best and Madeline their number three. Special Purpose has two wins at 5F but we saw in last year’s Lowther that Queen Kindly won despite being deemed a sharp filly. More concern is that Special Purpose won at Beverley last time and the form of both her races has seemed nothing special so far.
Regarding Dee Ex Bee, he’s very much the one for money. Generally 6/4 now and they can’t seem to give Fleet Review away at 11/2.
Wells Farhh Go is generally 11 and 12s now, after 18s was available, so happy enough with suggesting him as potential value. James Garfield has not been popular at all and is hovering at 11/1.
Good luck to everyone.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Have to stick with james garfield for this
As much as i liked dee ex bees maiden win, johnstons runners are pretty far forward usually, he will improve for sure, but james garfield already rated 104 and has arguably been unlucky a couple of times has shown enough to be a group horse, i think the horse still has a few lbs of improvement in him
If he were to not win i wouldnt be surprised if he was brought back to 6f after the race, wasnt entirely convinced he got the 7f last time but at the odds hes worth a punt
James garfield at 7/1 seems like a cracking bet
I absolutely agree
James Garfield was my pick when seeing the entires. I was expecting somewhere around 9/2. 7/1 looks massive.
Gutted. Absolutely gutted.
How good is that Expert Eye?
How good is that Expert Eye?
Very good,james garfield got the distance well today, just highlights how good expert eye was that day
Mark Johnston all over once again. He just can’t seem to have a horse run its race with any consistency at all. Dee Ex Bee ran like a UXB, one of the first beaten and never went a yard really. No doubt it will probably do a Yalta and pop up at 14/1 next time but I won’t be on him. “Always Trying” certainly yes Mr Johnston, but not in the sense of the word Trying that one might think.
I had £3 on Wells Farhh Go, I thought James Garfield would hold on, so hard lines for his backers, he ran a cracker and paid a decent compliment to Expert Eye.
As always it puzzles me to see punters uninterested in Dee Ex Bee at 3/1 and then running like dafties to take 5/4. The Lemming Express rarely leaves the station without the coaches filled to the rafters.
Fleet Review was abysmal and the layers lured them in with 11/2 and the Ballydoyle fans could not leave it alone at that price.
Nice runs by the winner and James Garfield. Tim Easterby has just been saying he holds Wells Farhh Go in high regard and the Royal Lodge was mooted. It will depend how the horse comes out of this “Hard” race today but he mentioned the winner in Bollin Eric territory and feels that Wells Farhh Go will be a “Proper Horse” next season.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Ul James Garfield backers but I’m sure he will get your money back for you as this horse has a big future, as has the winner.
Had 40 on Ulshaw Bridge in the end my only bet but he lacked the cruising speed to even get competitive and probably didn’t get home either.
Mark Johnston all over once again. He just can’t seem to have a horse run its race with any consistency at all. Dee Ex Bee ran like a UXB, one of the first beaten and never went a yard really. No doubt it will probably do a Yalta and pop up at 14/1 next time but I won’t be on him. “Always Trying” certainly yes Mr Johnston, but not in the sense of the word Trying that one might think.
I had £3 on Wells Farhh Go, I thought James Garfield would hold on, so hard lines for his backers, he ran a cracker and paid a decent compliment to Expert Eye.
As always it puzzles me to see punters uninterested in Dee Ex Bee at 3/1 and then running like dafties to take 5/4. The Lemming Express rarely leaves the station without the coaches filled to the rafters.
Fleet Review was abysmal and the layers lured them in with 11/2 and the Ballydoyle fans could not leave it alone at that price.
Nice runs by the winner and James Garfield. Tim Easterby has just been saying he holds Wells Farhh Go in high regard and the Royal Lodge was mooted. It will depend how the horse comes out of this “Hard” race today but he mentioned the winner in Bollin Eric territory and feels that Wells Farhh Go will be a “Proper Horse” next season.
I wasn’t interested in the favourite at 3/1 or 5/4. The latter is a laughable price based on a maiden when you could get 11/1 James Garfield who has now run 4 races against 70 horses and been beaten by just 5.
Dee Ex Bee wins a maiden at a big meeting and suddenly gets backed like it’s a superstar. Absolute madness.
I don’t lay horses but I made him at 5/4 a stupid price.
If i hadnt been working and seen that dee ex beenwas backed into 5/4 it would have been a big lay from me, like i said johnstons are usually alot further forward than most first time out
Gutted about james garfield but i went in multiple times e/w when he went on the drift, but i really like this horse i will be following him through, definitely has a big one in him
I came close to backing Dee Ex Bee today myself when around 5/2 (certainly not 5/4). Like threading – impressive at Goodwood in a very fast time for a newcomer.
To be honest, I don’t take much notice of silly market moves. In my opinion “Form” doesn’t have much to do with a move from 3/1 to 5/4. Bookies don’t get “form” that wrong. It’s far more likely to be either what people think they know (home reports) and/or what the horse looks like in the paddock. In this case probably both. I’ve heard Mark Johnston thinks Dee Ex Bee is his “best two year old colt” and had the paddock judges purring today. These “in the know” steamers sometimes win, sometimes not.
Mark certainly gets them ready first time up for the Glorious Goodwood meeting. It is Possible needs to lead, made all that day and could’ve resented being headed today, or amiss… But the thing that often stops me from backing Johnston’s here is the contrast in form of his runners at York in late August compared to Goodwood in early August. Seems he just can’t keep many going this time of year/month. Like a lot of TRFers, thought there was a real chance Dee Ex Bee would not run as well. Do believe he could make a good horse in future though if all is well with him.
It’ll be interesting to see what Threading does.
Value Is Everythingif you watch a video replay of dee ex bees goodwood win it wasn’t that impressive. got an easy lead and when it got into the straight looked a bit laboured but the others lacked the ability to go past.
real the emperors new clothes stuff.
Zaaki ran a great race, a lot better than I thought he would and appeared to be nicely settled. On better ground he’ll run a lot better.
I’m told Johnston has a solidly long term lousy record at this meeting. I think I read a couple of years back someone (might have been T Segal) arguing that the surface at York was quite unusual and might not suit Johnston horses (I cant recall the reasoning…maybe I’m confused and the surface state was being put forward to explain some odd results at York).
An interesting oddity then that a trainer who is usually consistent and has trained arguably more than his fair share of big winners struggles at this meeting. Any theories?
Well done Steve
Good stuff from the front two but IMO the best horse to take forward is the third. drawn wide no clues early on and stayed on into third without having too tough a race!!
I’m told Johnston has a solidly long term lousy record at this meeting. I think I read a couple of years back someone (might have been T Segal) arguing that the surface at York was quite unusual and might not suit Johnston horses (I cant recall the reasoning…maybe I’m confused and the surface state was being put forward to explain some odd results at York).
An interesting oddity then that a trainer who is usually consistent and has trained arguably more than his fair share of big winners struggles at this meeting. Any theories?
Have you seen the latest Simon Rowlands piece, Joe?
1. Interested to read York is known as a track that disadvantages front/prominent runners, but in fact that’s far more on the round course than the straight. Johnston does better with horses over longer distances and they’re usually ridden prominently. Where as Goodwood is a good front/prominent runner’s track for 7f+ races.
2. York is much more likely to be softer and when on the soft side it gets loose. Sometimes seems to me those who do act on softish ground often don’t act on York’s soft surface… And despite what happened earlier in the month Johnston’s got a better record on a firm surface than soft.
3. Almost every year his stable is in absolutely outstanding form at the time of Glorious Goodwood – not only at Goodwood but at other courses too… And yet by late August that’s usually changed. Timeform actually have Johnston with a symbol for “in form” at the moment, I don’t. Not in bad form, but imo not good either and this is the time of year his yard usually starts to struggle. Far better record in the first half of the season.
One of the above wouldn’t make a great deal of difference, but when it’s all three…
That’s my theory.
Value Is EverythingIf i hadnt been working and seen that dee ex beenwas backed into 5/4 it would have been a big lay from me, like i said johnstons are usually alot further forward than most first time out
Gutted about james garfield but i went in multiple times e/w when he went on the drift, but i really like this horse i will be following him through, definitely has a big one in him
There is no way I would have backed Dee Ex Bee at 5/4. I said initially that I felt 2/1 was what he was likely to go off at. I just felt 3/1 was sure to beat SP. That was true in no uncertain terms but the biggest doubt I had was Johnston’s habit of having winners run abysmally on their second start.
Johnston can get them fit for sure on debut but this was not a typically sharp bred horse that he works with. Maybe the horse simply needs gutters to show his form but there is always an air of muck or nettles when dabbling with Johnston runners. No chance of the trainer ever getting the late Darts player Bill Lennard’s nickname “Mr Consistency”
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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