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Seriously thinking of stopping direct debit for my TV Licence, I don’t watch BBC or live tv of any kind. The News is Fake on all channels so why bother.
Netflix and sometimes youtube, anyone else decided to stop their payment? interesting to know your thoughts.
Not sure if there’s been a previous post regarding Licence.I use iPlayer and listen to 5Live so I pay it. If I didn’t do those two things, I would not pay it.
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It’s not an expensive item, but I resent paying it.
I hardly ever switch the television on and when I do it’s extremely rare for it to be the BBC.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Its worth it for me. Match of the Day / Cricket highlights / Films/ Documentaries on iPlayer are all decent sometimes.
Not to mention the excellent Olympic coverage recently.
I cannot abide Ad-breaks, so iPlayer is of frequent use to me.
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There was a time, not so long ago, when I would have staunchly defended the TV Licence as a small price to pay for the BBC’s TV programmes being generally a cut above those on commercial channels; but not so much now, as the beebs output seems to have deteriorated whilst the now myriad other channels have either remained as they were or improved. I find BBC News and current affairs in particular to be piss-poor
Still, I’m reasonably content to continue paying it as it also funds BBC Radio which I listen to, and value, much more than I watch and value BBC TV
Agree with Drone – the BBC has dumbed down and some of its rivals have improved.
I still pay the licence fee, but have to rationalise it as perpetual repayment for the magic of Doctor Who with Patrick Troughton in my infant childhood plus the fact I’m just slowly repaying them the money I got for working on Grandstand – which tbh was money for old rope – in between stuffing my face at their excellent and heavily-subsidised canteen.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Seriously thinking of stopping direct debit for my TV Licence, I don’t watch BBC or live tv of any kind.
Then why are you paying it? It’s required if you watch live broadcasts as well as BBC iPlayer, both of which you say you don’t use.
The News is Fake on all channels so why bother.
1. How do you know if you don’t watch it?
2. Examples please.BBC admits Syria gas attack report had serious flaws in ‘victory for truth’ after a complaint by Peter Hitchens
BBC said a documentary on alleged chemical weapon attack had inaccuracies
The program dealt with an alleged chemical attack at Douma, Syria, in 2018
It included an account of ‘Alex’, a former inspector with the poison gas watchdog
BBC said it had no evidence that ‘Alex’ believed the attack in Douma was staged
Adjudicators agreed it had failed to meet ECU’s editorial standards for accuracy.Richard if you need more examples search the net
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Well done, you’ve provided much more of a response than that question usually gets. I will however pass on searching for more.
Moving on, I’m always curious as to why people see it as some sort of victory that they aren’t paying it. There is literally no legal requirement to do so, nobody is forcing you.
Well, it is a legal requirement:
“A TV Licence is a legal permission to install or use television receiving equipment to watch or record television programmes as they are being shown on TV or live on an online TV service, and to download or watch BBC programmes on demand, including catch up TV, on BBC iPlayer. This could be on any device, including TVs, desktop computers, laptops, mobile phones, tablets, games consoles, digital boxes, DVD, Blu-ray and VHS recorders. This applies regardless of which television channels a person receives or how those channels are received. The licence fee is not a payment for BBC services (or any other television service), although licence fee revenue is used to fund the BBC.
The requirement to hold a TV Licence and to pay a fee for it is mandated by law under the Communications Act 2003 and Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 (as amended). It is an offence to watch or record television programmes as they are being shown on any channel and on any broadcast platform (terrestrial, satellite, cable and the internet) or download or watch BBC programmes on demand, including catch up TV, on BBC iPlayer without a valid TV Licence.
Section 363 of the Communications Act 2003 makes it an offence to install or use a television receiver to watch or record any television programmes as they’re being shown on television without a TV Licence.
Section 365 of that Act requires that a person to whom a TV Licence is issued must pay a fee to the BBC. The nature and amount of this fee is set out in the Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 (as amended).
Since 1991, the BBC, in its role as the relevant licensing authority, has been responsible for collecting and enforcing the TV Licence fee. The BBC contracts companies to do this work under the BBC trade mark ‘TV Licensing’. The BBC (and contractors acting on its behalf) must comply with the law in collecting and enforcing the licence fee. The BBC Charter further requires that these arrangements be appropriate, proportionate and efficient.”
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It might be technically illegal but doesn’t feel like a crime, just deciding not to support the BBC. Though I do watch Newsnight, only when Emily Maitlis is hosting and on pretendy mute. So I don’t think that counts
It’s obviously a requirement if you watch live TV or iPlayer but that’s not what I was talking about.
People who have no interest in watching TV/BBC seem to treat it as some kind of victory when all they are doing is not paying for something they don’t use. However, as Tank probably realises, you can decide not to pay and still watch TV and the chances that anyone will penalise you for doing so are only very marginally higher than zero. Do they still try to make people believe that they have detector vans or have they finally given up that charade now?
It is of course much harder to avoid funding commercial channels which you indirectly do every time you buy a product from a company that advertises on them.
I didn’t think you required a license if you purely watched streaming like Netflix etc. Matrons post sugggests otherwise.
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“You can decide not to pay and still watch TV and the chances that anyone will penalise you for doing so are only very marginally higher than zero.”
Unless you are an old aged pensioner in poor health in Belfast:
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