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We are free to disagree with the trainer but she should know the horse a little better than we pundits do.
There’s no substitute for trusting one’s own eyes and it was obvious, to me at least, that Treve wasn’t acting on the going, even as early as on the run down into Swinley Bottom. Watch the race again and you’ll see that her action is like somebody walking on hot coals.
We are free to disagree with the trainer but she should know the horse a little better than we pundits do.
There’s no substitute for trusting one’s own eyes and it was obvious, to me at least, that Treve wasn’t acting on the going, even as early as on the run down into Swinley Bottom. Watch the race again and you’ll see that her action is like somebody walking on hot coals.
As the trainer has explained, they know the filly wasn’t moving properly and they believe it is for reasons other than the fast ground. Harry Herbert has stated that she might have tweaked a muscle, and Treve will now undergo thorough testing to see if anything was amiss.
If you think you know better than those who have access to the horse on a day to day basis then that is your prerogative.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
If you think you know better than those who have access to the horse on a day to day basis then that is your prerogative.
I’m certainly not saying that I know more than Mme Head-Maarek; however, I am saying that I’ve seen enough horses over the last thirty-plus years to know when one isn’t acting on the ground. Maybe Treve wasn’t striding out freely on account of a hitherto-unseen injury but if Dettori knew that the filly was wrong on the way to post, why didn’t he ask for her to be checked by the vet at the start?
If you think you know better than those who have access to the horse on a day to day basis then that is your prerogative.
I’m certainly not saying that I know more than Mme Head-Maarek; however, I am saying that I’ve seen enough horses over the last thirty-plus years to know when one isn’t acting on the ground. Maybe Treve wasn’t striding out freely on account of a hitherto-unseen injury but if Dettori knew that the filly was wrong on the way to post, why didn’t he ask for her to be checked by the vet at the start?
You would have to ask Frankie that question. Clearly connections are keen to run in the biggest races despite any reservations that arise just before the off.
The O’Brien’s felt something may have been amiss with Horatio Nelson just before the 2006 Derby but after having let the vet take a look they allowed him to run and he was fatally injured.
My whole point is that several people are simply blaming the ground but it could be that something else was the reason for her disappointing her backers. Soft ground at Longchamp won’t help if the problem is of a physical nature.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Soft ground at Longchamp won’t help if the problem is of a physical nature.
Agreed. However, I’m not naive enough to believe every word uttered by the connections of beaten favourites; call me cynical, but perhaps they always had doubts about the ground and this mysterious injury is their way of covering their blushes?
For anyone interested just watch a replay of last year’s Breeders’ Cup Turf at Santa Anita on Fast ground where Magician and The Fugue finished 1-2. As far as Treve is concerned fast ground at Chantilly is not the same as good to firm at Royal Ascot. I think in my mind she really felt the firm surface. And she’s crying out for a mile and a half.
I backed the Fugue this day at 9s (along with Mukhadram, who wasn’t seen to best effect with the ride he was given by the way).
The reason why I did this was due to the fact that from what I have seen so far in Treve’s career, she is better over 12 furlongs and with cut in the ground. Furthermore, I think she is better with a slow pace and the Prince Of Wales’ was always going to be run at breakneck with Ektihaam in the field. But the big thing is that she was receiving 11ib in the Arc compared to 3ib at Ascot. For sure, she will have grown and improved over the winter but I still felt that the young fillies are given too much weight in the Arc.
Overall, I felt there was enough negatives/doubts about Treve for the reasonable punter not to back her at 4/6. All these negatives didn’t even take into account that she was facing one of the best horses in the world in The Fugue on conditions that the older mare favours.
Treve will come back, and if the Arc is run on soft going then she will be right there. If this IS the case, then The Fugue will be looking on from the other side of The Channel.
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