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    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    As much as I am all for the banning of the maestro I would love to see him come back as a trainer.

    He could do all the gambling he wanted drink a can of coke a day. The very mention of his name would send every bookie in the country running for cover.

    In many cases ex jockeys make great trainers, Fred Winter, Josh Gifford, Michael Dickinson, Paul Nicholls, etc. My game is the jumps so I will leave the flat list to the experts.

    To be a good trainer you must be tough on people at times and Fallon is definitely an expert there…….don’t know if he has a sense of humour but by looking at his hairstyle he must have.

    I just seen the article saying Willie McKay would be behind him and I think this would be the best thing for Fallon. Get away from riding keep his private life his own and become a successful trainer.

    I think he should grab the opening with both hands and forget about riding.

    All joking aside, the type of character he seems to be tailor made for the job and I think he could become a great trainer.

    He is apparently a great judge of a good horse and that is the one single factor that can make the difference between a good trainer and a great one….Michael Dickinson was famed for having a great eye for a good horse and was Tommy Stack and if Fallon is half s good as they say he’s half way there already.

    #139150
    apracing
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    I just seen the article saying Willie McKay would be behind him and I think this would be the best thing for Fallon.

    It’s certainly done wonders for Joey Barton.

    AP

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    Black Sam Bellamy
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    Personally, I don’t see him as having the required mental strength for the job. Some may suggest the opposite, but he strikes me essentially as being of weak character.

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    McKay/Fallon combo? Run for your lives everyone.

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    It’s not the greatest vote of confidence in McKay’s current Bawtry incumbent Danny Murphy either, is it!

    gc

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

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    Hello,

    Frankly I think the world of racing has gone mad. The 18 month ban was a punishment as well as a period of reflection, and hopefully, rehabilitation.

    So the UK racing authorites consider sanctioning a Trainers Licence for Fallon.

    Next time a driver is collared for drink or drug driving, banned for 18 months’, he can amble along to a Coach Company and be taken on as a Coach driver. Although his irresponsilbilty has been recognised by the relevant authorities, and a ban imposed to prevent him driving, he will be fine transporting up to 50 people…Yep, the UK Racing authorities would see this as just common sense.. :roll:

    Dear, dear me !!

    regards,

    doyley

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    Danny leaves Bawtry within the next week I believe Jeremy. There’s a long line of people there – from Haigh (who managed to cause great upset to my Uni dissertation with her shenaningans), Pitt, Murphy. He gets through a trainer a season.

    Lease it to someone else and send all his horses to Grayson :D

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    The whole concept of these two paragons of virtue teaming up is frightening in the extreme.

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    To complete the team, how about Fergal Lynch as stable jockey, Graham Bradley as head lad, Barney Curley to do the placing and Miles Rodgers to run the Willie McKay Racing Club syndicates.

    More seriously, very few flat jockeys ever make a success of training. In the top fifty for 2007, the only one I remember having ridden on the flat is Dandy Nicholls.

    I suppose you could argue it’s still early days for Pat Eddery and Walter Swinburn, but neither has had great results so far.

    AP

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    Swinburn isn’t doing too badly I thought – had a few high-ish profile winners.

    The trouble with those who’ve been at the top while jockeys and then turning to training is motivation, I would guess.

    There have been some notable exceptions, the late George Moore for example. Geoff Lewis did well also. I’m sure there are more?

    #139218
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    As Apracing says, very few flat jockeys make successful trainers, probably because they don’t spend as much time with the horses in a training environment as their jumping counterparts do.

    Getting involved with someone like McKay is perhaps not the best move Fallon could make.

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    Danny leaves Bawtry within the next week I believe Jeremy. There’s a long line of people there – from Haigh (who managed to cause great upset to my Uni dissertation with her shenaningans), Pitt, Murphy. He gets through a trainer a season.

    Although not based at Bawtry then (or now), Guesty didn’t have Admiral or Les Arcs for much more than 12-18 months either, I don’t think. A proper Hiram N Firam character.

    Lease it to someone else and send all his horses to Grayson :D

    Hell yeah! I hope he’s quite prepared to see Happy As Larry and Fast Freddie taking in Hexham novices’ handicap chases… :D

    gc

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

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    davidjohnson
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    What about Pat Eddery :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    Michael Wigham 8)

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    John Francome

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    Patrick Haslem with his pretty boy son, the old man doesnt show up at the races unles you are a millionare, so his our favour football agent would be curtain too have him at his beck and call.

    Pat will geld anything that has a set of testicals then run it at sothwell at two/three before a juvinile novice hurdle campagn and end up selling it after a win in a selling plate with it even if its a horse was a sprinter on the flat.

    As for Keiron, may be put his demons too rest and get some drug rehab, then rebuld his riding career when he has paid his penance.

    #139327
    Zoz
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    Venusian’s post reminds me of the quote posted on the forum allegedly stated by Tony McCoy regarding Fallon’s social tendencies.

    I recall reading on the day after his ban being announced that he said he had no intention of training immediately as, in his own words to the effect, he’s rubbish with people.

    Never met him but I don’t think I really need to have to imagine this to be a remarkable understatement!

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