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Difficult to get any real idea as to what it’s like without a Demo, but it looks an expensive tool
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The price is similar to that charged for the existing Computer Timeform.
I used to use computer timeform, but found it wasn’t a particularly user friendly interface an dif you forgot to do a daily download it was hard to go back and find whic ones you had missed. Admittedly that was about eight years ago, so it may have improved since then.
If you are a current regular user of Timeform then it may be a more cost effective way of getting the ratings. They used to allow payment by installments, not sure if they still do.
If they had confidence in the product I would have thought they would have been willing to offer a free trial. Simple option is to ask them!!
The 12 month Jumps package is about £100 more than the equivalent Computer Timeform package
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Paul,
There was a new version of CT introduced about two years ago. Downloads and updates are now much simpler, though it remains stubbornly user-unfriendly in several respects. Tried RI Interactive for a while but wasn’t comfortable with it so returned to CT, warts and all.
Monthly installments at no extra cost remain available; this year’s were £129 + 6 x £70
it’s interesting
I can log on to the RP or Sporting Life and find what i think is all the info needed for free, i can also log on to say NFL.Com, ESPN soccernet and find out all the info needed for free
From this info and tv pics/replays i can analyse each sport
So what are you really paying for, another persons opinion of what took place and a query tool?
Totally agree EW..
With the bare form widely available and the advent of online racing replays via ATR/RUK/Youtube, I personally don’t see the appeal in paying what look to be exorbitantly steep prices (IMO) for services like Timeform..
Direct comparisons between Timeform-i and Computer Timeform as it used to be known are not entirely fair, as the former includes coverage of all Irish jump racing in every bit as much depth as you will find with UK racing, which did not use to be the case with CTF.
So what are you really paying for, another persons opinion of what took place and a query tool?
Regarding Computer Timeform rather than its new brother:
Not having the time nor inclination to compile a private handicap, I want basic weight-adjusted race ratings and a formbook database from a third party I respect and more importantly understand. Moreover I want incisive race/horse commentaries (Timeform’s real niche value) that supplement/question my own observations and analysis.
Paying £600 a year for the privilege of comfort in the familiar maybe…but I’d reiterate: understanding the methodology (both ratings-wise and comments-wise) of your chosen formbook is every bit as important as how ‘good’ they are. CT, despite its questionable user interface and limited interrogation facilities, satisfies and more than pays its way.
I would agree that the need for reliance on third-party ratings/opinion has diminished greatly in recent years with the advent of comprehensive TV coverage. Long may it last.
Am currently deciding whether to get RI again for the jumps- Timeform i sounds interesting- can you run queries on it like RI?
BTW is it possible to have RI on 2 computers for personal use?Hello,
What I gauge from the entire Forum, you are comparatively young.
The Timeform was always a bible to me, giving me information that used to steadily lose me money, but have the odd winner on a 6/4 chance.The access to information today that we have via what you are reading now is magnificent.
Trust me, all the information that Timeform uses to collate a "figure" is there for everybody to use.
I am a complete dinosaur at I.T. [see I am improving, last year I used the term Computer], but use your own systems of collating information, and adapt it to the way you wish to lose money.
I am not being sarcastic, but years ago Timeform was considered by many as invaluable, but today, the same source of information is available to all, just put your beer, vodka, martini, night nurse and Media Whore down and use it…
regards,
doyley
I doubt anything that says here’s a magic formula.
The prolem with Timeform is it omits to tell you the horse they are top rating jumped through a hedge yersterday and has a bruised hind quarter.
Exageration but I think you get my point
Phil Bull was it who made lots of money? Wonder who was paying him.
At best it could be described as a useful tool to aid a punter in his quest for winners.
You need a lot more than some time figures to pick winners.
I would advise anyone to use their own eyes,ears and judgement. Never be influenced by books or sytems if they worked we would all be loaded.
The prolem with Timeform is it omits to tell you the horse they are top rating jumped through a hedge yersterday and has a bruised hind quarter.
Could you tell me what publication prints this info please?
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