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  • #1613303
    Avatar photoBachelors Hall
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    “Ways the Growth of Online Casinos Help Horse Racing” and “The best online horse racing slots”

    They’re a bit ****, aren’t they? The latter, with its dead links and shilling of online slots, is bad. The former, directly linking “UK online casinos not on gamstop” is ******* vile.

    I have genuinely seen less egregious spam.

    At best this is the result of a terrible lack of oversight for allowing the site to be hacked.

    Someone should be deeply ashamed because I feel dirty for having posted somewhere which endorses such predatory behaviour.

    #1613304
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    Hear, hear BH.

    #1613307
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    I haven’t actually seen the material in question (but then I’m not always the most observant).

    All I’d say is gaming is a threat to horseracing because horserace betting tends to get lumped in with it in problem gambling analysis.

    I’m sure gaming creates far more horror stories than horserace betting does.

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    #1613313
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    I did see the one about slots and just thought WTF!

    Money makes the World go round.

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    #1613429
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    I see that the “article” actively encouraging gambling addiction is still up. Not an oversight then.

    Whoring out the site’s reputation for an online casino promotion is tacky and sad, but a lot of racecourses do that anyway. However, such a brazen and obnoxious disregard for even the most basic of ethical principles is not something I want to be anywhere near.

    Either that “article” goes, or I do.

    #1613474
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    I rarely liked those front page articles and started my own thread about them a couple of months ago. But maybe, people don’t take much notice of them anyway.

    The one I like the most is the one about the three horses with a chance in next year’s Grand National. Already forgot who they were…..

    #1613475
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    I am forever mindful that TRF is a free resource for forumites yet there will be operational costs associated with running it.

    Recouping those via advertising isn’t unreasonable.

    That said, I have bookmarked the actual forums only – I never visit the home page, still less read any of the material or view any of the adverts, so none of it impacts on me.

    I share BH’s distaste for gaming, but am not in the business of issuing ultimatums – I consider myself fortunate to be a member of this excellent free website, I have no leverage here and, even if I did, it would feel wrong to use it.

    But it would be good if TRF could distance itself from gaming in the same way it would be good if the racing industry itself could do likewise.

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    #1613485
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    I could forgive/ignore most articles of that nature, tacky though they are, as I can understand why they are there. A paid puff piece on some podcast/trainer/syndicate etc would be more palatable, but beggars can’t be choosers.

    However, I draw a very firm line on advertising/endorsing websites that are not on gamstop. Legal concerns notwithstanding, it is the moral equivalent of selling crack or heroin outside of a rehab clinic. If the scumbags behind those sites make any return on the investment given to TRF, it will come at a very human cost.

    #1613488
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    Thanks for drawing our attention to these tawdry ill-conceived articles

    It would be nice if the author ‘admin’, who is presumably either Cormack or Matron, would have the decency to address the concerns of BH by submitting an explanation for them

    Dirty money accrued to keep the goodish ship TRF afloat might just be acceptable but it does pong somewhat

    #1613489
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    Or maybe the powers that be could obviate the need for such articles by charging a small subscription fee?

    I’m sure that everyone here, as a racegoer and/or gambler, has some disposable income.

    #1613490
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    For the first time in like forever – or maybe even EVER – I just visited the home page.

    I read the first sentence or two of the gaming articles, but I always did have the attention span of a gerbil and I’m afraid I got bored and gave up before I had chance to be offended.

    And there was something on the St Leger which I thought was written in a slightly curious style and featured two horses who have been withdrawn.

    On this basis, it may be some considerable time before I visit the home page again – the action of interest is HERE, on the forums!

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    #1613505
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    My endless selections might send a few more to destitution and the poorhouse sooner than than these crass adverts. (There was a 22s into 13/2 winner in the bumper last night in my defence yesterday).
    I have had a look at these articles in the past. They are mildly amusing and appear to have been penned by a six year old.( So a slightly higher standard than one of my threads.)
    There is a comments box and I have added one before and there has previously been a thread about them.
    There was a time when the forum was constantly under attack from spammers and hackers. Now they don’t seem to bother as these articles are doing the job for them.
    Maybe incontinence pads and saga holidays might put up a few adds instead.
    Is the money from these advertisers too good to turn them away? Does personal gain cloud the issue? It may be impertinent to ask such a question and certainly none of my business.
    Only admin can answer that.
    I know this website or forum is not free to run, nor is it a charity.
    Perhaps the forum could establish a code of ethics, perhaps not. It does though seem at odds with aims of furthering a love of the great sport of racing.
    I cannot find another forum which doesn’t have similarly crass tacky adds and to be fair the OP also posts on those outlets.
    I do find them distasteful but won’t threaten to take my ball away as I like playing with it. ( But also no one would miss me!).
    Why not give admin a chance to respond first.
    I like the forum too much to bite my nose to spite my face.

    #1613507
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    Did not the Great bard not pose a similar question to sporting Sam’s?

    To be or not to be
    That is the question
    Whether tis nobler in the mind
    to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous non-gamstop fortune…

    #1613508
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    “At least we’re better than Corbyn would have been” is a defence long past it’s sell-by date.

    It’s debateable whether that would have been the case and in any event that won’t be the choice in 2024 anyway.

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    #1613510
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    “At least we’re better than Corbyn would have been” is a defence long past it’s sell-by date.

    Corbyn was the Labour leader at the last general election, which is when the public decide. Only at the next one will this argument expire.

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    #1613515
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    Corbyn?
    There you have it.
    Thread creep checker sponsored by SAGA.
    Would have sorted this sort of thing out.

    #1613517
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    As far as I am aware, the other forums have not endorsed sites where the USP is their not being on gamstop. Much as I detest the legal bookies, they at least give addicts (and their dependents) a fighting chance. Nevertheless, if such bottom feeding behaviour can be pointed out then I will also walk away from those places.

    Admin have now had over fifty hours to address my concerns.

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