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- October 19, 2009 at 17:01 #12967
Cheryl Cole came to prominence through entering this kind of contest so I am baffled as to why singing live for her was made into such a big deal.The heavily produced performance was no more than ok in the end ( Simon Cowell doesn’t seem to know what incredible means if he thought this was it IMO) but I couldn’t see why there was so much hype.
As for John and Edward I think these programmes should be made to release their voting figures because these 2 non singers are either being kept in as curiosity figures to keep people watching or there is a pitifully low vote that allows them to get through or maybe even some kind of phone scam going on because on merit in a contest primarily about vocal talent there is no way they would still be in.
Once the bottom 2 in the poll emerged it was obvious to me that in a show top heavy with solo male contenders that the bloke would have to go because on his way to the Christmas no’1 and another cash cow/bull Mr Cowell knows that he has to make as interesting a TV show as he can therefore ‘quota’ing and keeping people watching for whatever reason is the priority.
October 19, 2009 at 22:36 #254337I love Girls Aloud and am a massive fan but even for me Cheryls single is very poor and not great lyrically and the tune could do with being remixed by someone.
Whitney and Robbie seem to think that X Factor is part of some drug rehabilitation programme, i expect next week that Pete Doherty will turn up.
One thing which is interesting is that Spice Girls who were truly awful yet the solo projects were quite good to listen to, Cheryls track shows that Nadine and Kimberley are the better singers from the band and even Nicola aka The Ginger One who i think is quite sexy does a good solo song on the Chemistry album.
Regarding X Factor i want Lucie or Stacey to win as they are really good and Stacey could read the Bible and make it sound funny.
October 20, 2009 at 18:56 #254479John & Edward are the X factors answer to John Seargeant.
Car Crash gawpingly bad – that’s why they are still there.
October 21, 2009 at 08:20 #254541I can’t be bothered with that keech. It used to be better in the early rounds listening to people who can’t sing.
Like this guy here
October 27, 2009 at 18:23 #255693Had a few quid at about 50-1 on those twins a few days ago in the hope it becomes a Sargent type scenario…..read the front page of the sun today
Might get a good run for my money? They are 22 on BF right now.November 1, 2009 at 22:29 #256662This show is becoming more farcical by the week.
John and Edward are becoming the least of their problems.Aswell as singers who plainly can’t sing we now have judges that can’t judge.
For the 2nd week running a clear cut case of being able to make a judgement on whose was the better performance was dodged by the so called judges ( for whom virtually everything deserves a standing ovation or is ‘incredible’)in favour of the public vote and this time Rachel whose original performance was amongst the very best of the previous night has gone out of the competition.
The whole judges rivalry and mentoring thing is misconcieved in my view – how much time do they actually spend with their acts? surely it is the musical directors,stylists and choreographers who do the real shaping and coaching so why do we have this faux rivalry based on nothing in particular which leads to so called judges being unable to judge honestly and fairly because either they don’t want to send ‘their own’ acts home or they haven’t got the guts to make a decision.Before someone says it: I know I should get out more but X factor is my guilty pleasure,I just love to hate it and I am now edging seriously towards the Jedward camp so that the whole thing becomes a parody of itself and that the contemptibly smug Simon Cowell who is hailed as some kind of genius for doing very little except exploiting the gullibility of people who vote in these types of shows gets one in the eye.
November 2, 2009 at 10:21 #256705…the gullibility of the voter…well, if they didn’t vote then we would have no X Factor. Bit like if people didn’t bet, there might be no racing and the mainstream I think often consider punters as ‘mugs’.
Let us enjoy it while we can, as I’m sure you do too
November 6, 2009 at 08:18 #257374When the kids visit on the weekend i give in to their wishes and end up watching this truly boring ,repetitive crap,its like a 21st century version of a victorian freak show.
All this show is is a vehicle for simon cowell to make vast amounts of money, i just wish i knew where i went wrong in my kids up-bringing to make them like this rubbish
November 10, 2009 at 00:18 #258098…if I felt like that I think I would cuddle up on the settee and nod off, – I doubt anyone would notice

The viewing figures for this show are quite something considering all the other offerings we have to take our time now.
I do like Jo, he has an engaging smile and a lovely voice which is hard to fault, but I think Olly is the best all rounder.
Altogether, a little light relief in these troubling times.
November 20, 2009 at 17:15 #259636Jedward as babies…cute
November 20, 2009 at 20:37 #259675When the kids visit on the weekend i give in to their wishes and end up watching this truly boring ,repetitive crap,its like a 21st century version of a victorian freak show.
All this show is is a vehicle for simon cowell to make vast amounts of money, i just wish i knew where i went wrong in my kids up-bringing to make them like this rubbish
I’m very fortunate in that neither of my kids would touch it with a barge pole, nor Celebrity anything else for that matter. I’ve never watched any of those shows and I’m keeping it that way
Utter tripe.November 20, 2009 at 21:33 #259681I always get puzzled as to why people say something is ”utter tripe” when in the same breath they admit to ”never having watched it”. My question would then be…how do you know?
The mention of horse racing, I have found with many people, mostly women, tends to illicit a similar response as you have given here, usually claiming it ”boring” ”cruel to animals” ”switch over when it comes on the t.v.” so, never apparently watching it, do these people have a point too? are they right?
I have never watched a complete episode of Eastenders, as what little I have seen tended to lack humour, so it didn’t appeal but I think it would be wrong of me to deride it because of that.
November 20, 2009 at 22:47 #259697I’ve never watched X Factor, or Pop Idol, although I did watch part of the final of Britains Got Talent because of all the media hype about it. The main problem I have with these programmes is the attitiude of people in this country in a ‘I don’t need to get an education/work for a living etc because I’m going to be famous one day’. Not sure if these programmes are a result of this attitude, or they have caused it..but it really bothers me. It does, however, amuse me to think that they are just rehashed versions of Opportunity Knocks, and it wouldn’t be very cool to appear on that, would it?
November 21, 2009 at 20:38 #259849I always get puzzled as to why people say something is ”utter tripe” when in the same breath they admit to ”never having watched it”. My question would then be…how do you know?
The mention of horse racing, I have found with many people, mostly women, tends to illicit a similar response as you have given here, usually claiming it ”boring” ”cruel to animals” ”switch over when it comes on the t.v.” so, never apparently watching it, do these people have a point too? are they right?
I have never watched a complete episode of Eastenders, as what little I have seen tended to lack humour, so it didn’t appeal but I think it would be wrong of me to deride it because of that.
Obviously I’ve caught bits of all these celebrity programmes, and you can’t fail to read about them in the paper, so you do get a feel for the type of programme they are, and I KNOW I’d hate them. I hate the celebrity culture of people being famous just for being famous, I hate any sort of jolly, grinning presenter, I hate whooping, clapping over the top audiences,I hate programmes aimed at people with no brain cells, I hate Simon Cowell and his arrogance, I hate "celebrity" judges, and I hate the fact that people get caught up in all this hype. So yes, I know what you maen about "you haven’t seen it so how can you judge?", but I know what I like and dislike and these programmes contain everything I loathe. I’m a bit of an bugger that way, it’s probably the menopause
November 22, 2009 at 00:00 #259905May as well get a radio and save the licence fee

Yes,no point in wasting money.I had a black and white dog until 1987.
November 22, 2009 at 00:31 #259907Dog license no longer required
November 22, 2009 at 00:45 #259908Obviously I’ve caught bits of all these celebrity programmes, and you can’t fail to read about them in the paper, so you do get a feel for the type of programme they are, and I KNOW I’d hate them. I hate the celebrity culture of people being famous just for being famous, I hate any sort of jolly, grinning presenter, I hate whooping, clapping over the top audiences,I hate programmes aimed at people with no brain cells, I hate Simon Cowell and his arrogance, I hate "celebrity" judges, and I hate the fact that people get caught up in all this hype. So yes, I know what you maen about "you haven’t seen it so how can you judge?", but I know what I like and dislike and these programmes contain everything I loathe. I’m a bit of an bugger that way, it’s probably the menopause

lol…yes I understand your last point.
Thanks for your frank reply.
You sound as though you ‘hate’ quite a bit there, which is a strong term to use and seems to be aimed at certain types of people, those that you see as manipulating gullible others for their own gain. I’m not a lover of Rupert Murdoch although I know little about him, but I subscribe to Sky t.v. nonetheless. My dislike of him is irrational as I don’t know him.What disturbs me a little is something a bit deeper, although I don’t lose sleep over it, is that we are guilty I think of so much pre-judging in life, anything or anyone we have little or no contact with, we make assumptions based on prejudice and without fully knowing the subject of those prejudices. I think these feelings transfer to television programmes too.
How easy it would be for me to say that cricket is utter tosh, and the most boring sport imaginable. Yet I’ve never ever watched a game of it. Who am I to judge?
I shall look forward to watching Susan Boyle on Sunday’s show

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