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sorry about tramp like appearances,
an old saying used in my yoof.show most take all, who fancies it?
The plot thickens…….
Here’s a picture of the three tramps in action as the betting heats up to a crescendo:
http://irishkc.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/bookie.jpg
Here’s the recorded bets on a creature called Illuminati at Kempton on Thursday:
£550-£400 £500-£400 (x2) £1100-£1000 £880-£800 £400-£400 (x6)
Here’s the SIS shows on the race: Evs….4/5 (SP)
It seems that the lion’s share of bets were struck at shows never made available. Was there a fourth bookie situated on the grassy knoll, perhaps better dressed than the other three, laying these bets that was being ignored by the trilaterals?
I think we should be told. Surely it’s time for RUK to go down to the Kempton ring next time there’s a short price fav to clear up exactly what is going on. Let’s see the price for the entire country being determined in action: the three tramps, the mystery fourth bookie, the trilateral reps and the dozen actual punters.
Tonight’s returns on the three shortest price jollies at the Sunbury sandpit of shame.
Chat Le Burg….Evs….(2/1 BFSP)
Sham Sheer……5/4….(almost 5/2)
Kings Salute….Evs…..(over 6/4)Any bookie caught in that triangulation of crossfire paid out 8/1 on the SP treble, when the BF rollup paid over 24/1.
The 6.20 saw every horse shorten, some massively, from the opening show bar the 50/1 rag which remained steady.
Surely it’s time for The Warren Commission to look into the activities of these tramps.
Totally agree Glen , Winstons mount was trading at 2.98 at the off and the bookies show was evens , even I fell off my chair laughing
Ruk largely ignores the racing and instead treat all their paying viewers to the studio chat and then as the horses come out on the track a quick 2 minute chat about the upcoming race , they are at pains to support kempton management so you have no chance of them actually exposing the truth ,ie Kempton is the same as Monmore on a wet winter Tues aftenoon , its a bags meeting . for betting shop mugsand anyone daft enough to bet on the sandpit
Its a stitch up but who cares ??
cheers
Ricky
I note that Racing For Change are concerned with the value punters are getting from on-course books. Maybe they should turn their attention to the Sunbury tramps rather than worrying about bookies skimping on each-way terms.
If you were an independent brewery who provided your premium ale as a guest ale to tied pubs at the same cost to them as producing their own insipid brew, but they offered you 10% of the profits, how would you feel if they were charging over ten times the price for a pint of your beer at the pump? Not a great way to get people drinking it, is it? Who on earth would ever order it?
That’s exactly what’s happening on Kempton race nights in bookies up and down the land – punters can pay 2.7p in the pound for FOBTs or circa 40p in the pound betting Kempton jollies.
Dear The Rabble – your beer is overpriced.
simple solution glenn, get kempton or the punters club to pay me £500 a night, I’ll return , sp’s will be 2% a runner,
only kempton though
simple solution glenn, get kempton or the punters club to pay me £500 a night, I’ll return , sp’s will be 2% a runner,
only kempton though
Offer up some matchups up at 2% a runner if you think that’s the mystical bookies’ christmas stocking number.
I don’t venture into betting shops that often these days, but wanted to watch a couple of races at Exeter the other day. I was stunned by the shows on the opening Novice Hurdle where after two or three normal shows of betting, the last few changes saw the first seven in the betting clipped substantially (moves of 12/1 into 8/1 and 7/1 into 11/2 in one showe included) without a single move in the other direction. The Overround for the first seven in the betting in a field of fourteen was over 120%. Ironically, two of the first four home were among the rags. This gives betting a bad name.
The starting price regulatory commision are investigating after their Kempton shenanigans.
why for crissake, do critics compare sp’s with betfair, what the hell has tony calvin got any wiews on sp’s for?
should yesterdays last race winner at lingfield returned 11/10 be 9/4 just because that was the price on betfair,
if mug layers chase money, its got nothing to do with the 0n-course market.
they are totally different markets with totally different layers involved.
as the BHA have indicated, exchange layers are unauthorised.
Stewards Enquiry Stewards Enquiry
I may have been a bit hasty in saying these Kempton shows are down to three tramps. We now have a new suspect:
A guy in a room somewhere deciding what the shows were after the winner is known.
Dear Rabble boys and lady , your fixtures trimming crisis is now resolved at a stroke of the pen …..do away with all sandpit fixtures at Kempton …simples ., no further cringes ref price variances , wrong betting shows , nags coming from Ireland with 14 duck eggs skating up , after being savaged from 25 to evens , just dump it , it gives betting a bad name , er not to mention racing gets a wee bit tarnished as well
Easy innit !!!
R
Fives years later these vagrants still haven’t been moved on! Clipping the front five or six in the betting in handicaps seems to be the norm.
Surely it’s time for Racing UK to ditch the studio of a Wednesday/Thursday evening and go down into the Kempton ring for a live outside broadcast to get the equivalent of the Zapruder film showing us how these SPs are determined.
Glen ….the shame is with you sadly …5 years from now things will be even worse
Why bother with it ??..nothing will change , in fact with a bookie about to take the reins at the BHA…you can look forward to a load more subtle changes to rip the punter off
Remember you dont count , your just a potential loser. a cash cow ..you have no voice in the entire industry , yet it would be in ruin without you !!!
Daft or what ??
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