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If not Japan then let Georgia have a shot.
Either would be preferable to the woeful Italy, though I think to and fro far flung Japan would prove an expensive logistical exercise and tiring for the players. Save them for World Cups or grant them the fully-fledged tours given the established anglophone southern hemisphere nations
As far as I know Georgia don’t really cut the world cake in any other sport so it would be good to see their rugby side being given a leg-up
But in truth, I don’t really understand why it was deemed necessary to expand the ‘5 Nations’ anyway
though I think to and fro far flung Japan would prove an expensive logistical exercise and tiring for the players.
You say that Drone but by air London to Tokyo is 5,948 miles
In the old Tri-Nations series Cape Town to Sydney is 6,850 miles and Cape Town to Auckland is 7,323 miles so not insurmountable and with Argentina joining to make it a four nation tournament the distances are even further.
It may be expensive but the Six Nations aren’t short of a bob or two and the money they rip fans off with official travel is a good earner for them as well.
When I went to Japan for the World Cup, doing it myself cost just under £6k for 12 days(including a three day stopover in Bangkok and a few days sightseeing in Japan) – to see the same matches on an “official” tour with any of the home unions would have cost around £9k with little time for sightseeing, there and back in six days (including two days travelling).
Scotland and Northern Ireland were not “ignored“; it was a UK-wide election. For Scotland to have a veto, what you’re saying is the less than 1.7 million Scots that voted to Remain, should get their way over more than 17.4 million UK voters who voted Leave… Be fair, that’s hardly “democratic”.
Value Is EverythingFor Northern Ireland to have a veto it would be under 441 thousand having their way over more than 17.4 million.
Value Is EverythingNo befair, the UK is Scotland, Wales, England and Northern Ireland. Every person in the UK has an equal say.
Value Is EverythingBefore the 2014 Referendum Nicola Sturgeon promised Scotland would keep the UK / British Pound. That was a promise that would’ve been impossible to keep.
UK could not allow it.
EU could not allow it.Value Is EverythingDue to England’s much greater population, any decision they make is imposed on the other three countries, no matter how destabilising.
You say that Drone but by air London to Tokyo is 5,948 miles
In the old Tri-Nations series Cape Town to Sydney is 6,850 miles and Cape Town to Auckland is 7,323 milesGood points: I made the schoolboy error of visualising Japan on a flat atlas, on which the distance from here appears to be huge, more so than say Cape Town to Sydney
Reminder to self: the earth is a globe and the shortest route to Japan, utilised by aircraft of course, is actually up and over the north polar regions
I believe it’s called Great-circle Navigation
It is very possible that votes in Scotland and/or Wales and/or Northern Ireland can make the difference in any uk-wide vote. Indeed, instead of blaming the English may be you should blame your fellow Scots? It was they who made the difference in the EU Referendum. Had the 1’018,322 Scottish Leave voters gone the other way we (Remain) would’ve won…
Value Is EverythingLess than half of Scotland’s electorate voted to Remain in the EU.
1’661,191 of the Scottish electorate voted to Remain.
1’018,322 of the Scottish electorate voted to Leave.
Amazingly for a country that portrays itself as massively pro EU, a staggering 32.8% of the Scottish electorate did not vote at all.So the number of Scottish electorate that did not vote Remain outnumber those who voted Remain.
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Had only the Scottish electorate that did not care or too lazy or could not get to a polling station all turned up and voted Remain… we’d all still be in the EU.
Scotland actually made the difference in the EU Referendum, because not enough of its electorate voted Remain.
So no befair, brexit was not “imposed” on Scotland.
Value Is EverythingSNP want to have the British/UK pound for an indefinite period after it becomes “Independent”. Under what even the SNP says, an independent Scotland may well be 10 or more years before it can get into the EU. Could be 15 or 20 or – if unable to reach the EU’s requirements – it’s entirely conceivable never joining the EU and never joining the Euro.
Value Is EverythingWhat has currency got to do with it? Many independent countries don’t have their own currency. Many EU countries don’t use the Euro.
Well I’ll give you that your right Ginger, that the 32.8% of Scots that
didn’t vote in the European referendum could have made a difference to
outcome of the vote, as would the 37.3% of Northern Ireland voters, the
28.3% of Welsh voters and the 27% of English voters who didn’t bother their
arse either. I get that it was the Scots who had the biggest majority of
remain voters, so presumably/possibly they may have had the biggest influence.
However with the population of Scotland being under 5 1/2 million and registered
voters just shy of 4 million, then just over 1.3 million didn’t vote. If they
all voted remain then it would have been touch and go, but It’s unreasonable
to assume they would all have voted to remain, so based on the 62% remain in
the rest of the country, this would have added roughly 818,000. That still
would have left us below 50%, and in any case when do we ever get a 100%
turnout. Therefore I think it’s a bit unfair to lay the reason we didn’t remain
at Scotland’s door. I think a good few arses would have to get off seats in
other parts of the UK to catch up with the leavers.To be honest, the feeling in Scotland before the EU vote was that it would be
unthinkable that we would have left, perhaps many thought it was a shoo-in and
there was a degree of complacency. I think that was the feeling from most
politicians anyway, right from David Cameron onwards. Personally I think he was
an idiot for calling a referendum in the first place on a hugely complex issue
and leaving it up to a population that didn’t have a chance to understand all
the political and legal complications. That would be the one that that eejit
Liam Fox called a post Brexit deal “the easiest in human history”. It’s often
said you can tell when a politcian lies, you can see their lips move, but there
were some whoppers told, not least Boris’s London bus with the shedload of
money that was going to the NHS. To an ageing population that was manna from
heaven. It made me laugh watching question time to see so many indignant people
when it was suggested that it was a complex negotiation, with the standard reply
“I knew what I was voting for!!” normally followed by “out means out”, which was
as ridiculous as “Brexit means Brexit”. Theresa May, the woman with the poisoned
chalice, invoked article 50 in March 2017, and we had to ask for 3 extensions after
the 2 year deadline, that’s how easy this was to comprehend.From your earlier comment Ginger, you’re right Ginger that we can’t have an
independence referendum every few years. We’ve had 1 in 2014, and one of the
main reasons there was a no vote was that the remain side made it plain that
the only safe way to stay in the EU was to vote no. Many did for that reason,
I know that for a fact, as Scotland is, as was shown, very pro European. We now
find ourselves being taken out of the EU by England, and to a smaller degree
Wales. I know the arguement is that we are part of the UK and that was what we
voted for. Well you can sit on that one for as long as you want, but an
independence referendum is coming like it or not. As I mentioned before I think
Cameron was foolish to put this whole question of the EU to voters, just my
opinion, I wished he hadn’t and we could have carried on as before and saved
hardship for UK businesses and billions of pounds wasted.Ach well, what am I bothering about, I mean with Boris at the helm, what could
possibly go wrong
27% of English voters who didn’t bother their arse either
It wasn’t all about can’t be botheredness. Some people didn’t vote because they didn’t really understand what leaving would mean and they were disillusioned with the EU and therefore abstained. You have said about the complexities later in your post.
Where would we be with covid if still in the he EU …. more deaths and hospitals still full , they,ll have to be an inquiry as much as been done wrongly throughout but if the SNP really think Scotland wants to be still in EU then I think they,ll be shocked , it’s the same old story when she gets asked about currency , defence etc she starts stuttering , watch the interview she did with Andrew Neil a while back …she hadn’t a clue , as for her poor memory come the salmond case …..
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