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Blimey Ginge., i`ve never seen anyone climb so far out of their pram as Billion has. That`s some affect you have there.
I mean, here we have a couple of guys passing the time on a forum in a mild mannered way, then up pops Ginge., and all hell breaks loose!!
Suppose that`s what over exposure in the media does for you.
I refuse to enter into any kind of banter with you or show any friendliness towards you because by doing so acknowledges your behaviour as acceptable. Dress it up any way you choose but you remain one of the loathsome characters who invade the Internet and places such as here and my advice to all here is to avoid contact with you at all cost.
You intimidate and you bully and then have the temerity to say you like me, you say you are thinking of leaving this place and then you consider moving your posts to "systems" being further signs you are not to be either believed or trusted. You crush humour and then tell me to lighten up, just how two faced is it possible for a person to be.
The administrators remain silent and show no signs of waving a yellow or red card to you and by not taking action make them no better than you. Such non action condones intimidation and bullying and they must be given a merit award for cowardice.
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Please explain what exactly I’ve done that is so bad I deserve to be banned Billion?
If mods explain the reasons why they do not act it would only add to your humiliation. Mods are doing what they should do, let two TRFers sort it out between ourselves and not appear to take sides.
Moderators know I was doing TRFers a favour by explaining why roulette is a game of luck; before any TRFer was suckered in to betting on roulette believing it a "sound investment"…
Tell me Billion, what is wrong with that?
I deserve thanks, not a ban.
…And don’t ignore the question like you’ve done so far.
Value Is EverythingIf anyone is choosing to ignore postings it is you.
Please read my first paragraph of my previous posting and then take a look in the mirror and try to see yourself as I do and perhaps the silent ones do as well.
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I refuse to enter into any kind of banter with you or show any friendliness towards you because by doing so acknowledges your
behaviour
as acceptable.
What behaviour?
As I said… I was doing TRFers a favour by explaining why roulette is a game of luck; before any unsuspecting TRFer was suckered in to betting on roulette believing it a sound investment…
What is wrong with that?
Why should I be banned for trying to save TRFers money?By all means gamble on roulette, but don’t think of it as an investment.
Value Is EverythingYour vanity is such a massive blockage refusing any self evaluation and results in going round and round and round (sadly not in ever decreasing circles) returning to the same old topic of seeing yourself as some kind of Messiah saving the world from the devil which in this case is roulette when as far as I have read none have said they want to play.
I have tried to pierce your over blown ego to no avail because of your excessive belief that only you can be right and has reinforced your skin to be thicker than that of a rhino.
Such is your self deluded crusade it manifests itself with the tactics of a despot selecting specific words, taking them out of context and turning them back on the unassuming victim as a weapon to destroy and then elevate your feeling of self gratification.
I will take another word which was inappropriately used by myself when in a more relaxed mode and not thinking a roughneck word policeman needed an injection of self pomposity to maintain his despicable self image.
Quote: – By way of introducing myself I asked if any members were aware of any roulette
systems
.
Big mistake! Perhaps not?
A complex whole; a set of things working together as a mechanism or interconnecting network.
An organised scheme or method.
Orderliness.Nevertheless being the bully you are and totally blinkered you find it impossible to enjoy pleasant social interaction and jumped in with: –
"Gullible says it all" and then followed it with: –
"There is
NO
roulette system".
Two words – gullible and system gave you the opening to attempt to wound the weakling and pump your ego which continues to need feeding.
I feel despite not having the need to clarify to you only, the use of gullible and please take this on board, no other members required any clarification.
Next, the word, system. I do believe quoting the Oxford English dictionary should suffice but perhaps not in your case when the crusade is in full flow and clouds the brain.
If when playing roulette I imagine a cool head is required (perhaps that is why you dislike it so much) and is played or should be played with orderliness.
Allow me to back track and substitute one word for another, change "system" and replace it with "strategy", being the art of planning and tactics: Devising a plan or strategy before commencing play.
If one is not allowed a roulette system then perhaps one should at least have a strategy which if willing and benevolent one person could pass on to another, especially if they were on friendly terms.
I am sure there is plenty here for you to pick over and turn back as a weapon of destruction because after all it is not the nature of a bully to accept there could be an alternative to the matter as you see it.
Now I am very, very bored so please do me a favour and leave this place with your tail between your legs as you indicated you may.
Billy's Outback Shack
Allow me to back track and substitute one word for another, change "system" and replace it with "strategy", being the art of planning and tactics: Devising a plan or strategy before commencing play.
If one is not allowed a roulette system then perhaps one should at least have a strategy which if willing and benevolent one person could pass on to another, especially if they were on friendly terms.
You still haven’t got it have you Billion.
Whether you have a system or strategy or whatever else a person might come up with… It might make the game more fun and/or interesting, but (and here is the vitally important part I wish you’d concentrate on)…
FACT:
You
CAN NOT
make a game of
luck
/chance in to a
sound investment
… as MrE was claiming. By all means have fun in playing roulette, use a system or strategy if you wish, but recognise they will
never
turn the
gamble
of roulette in to an
investment
.
Here is just one quote from MrE:
:lol:
yeah, the mention ofroulette
does seem to have that effect on people, you hit the nail on the head there old friend. Nonetheless,
there are people that can make it work, me being one of those
…
…it took me just over 9 months to recoup my bank courtesy of
roulette
(and the XGames)….
MrE
If there was a way of making roulette in to a sound investment then every Casino in the land would’ve gone bust years ago.
Value Is EverythingOnce again words are twisted to suit with a complete disregard for the facts.
Can there ever be any wonder I have accused this person with such descriptive words as: –
Bully – Bombastic – Arrogant – Pig headed – Self opinionated – Rude – Degenerate – Ignorant – Idiot – Coward – Abhorrent – Intimidating – Obnoxious – Pathetic – Oppressor = Loathsome and Despot.
Having an Over Blown Ego & Lacking Internet etiquette.
I am sure there are some I missed but think these will do for now.
The claim is that I still don’t get it.
Again I say for you to look in the mirror and then you will see who it is that still does not get it.
MrE
claims he is one to profit from roulette. Although I have no proof you cannot disprove his claim but you continue to post unused words (or at least not that I can see on review) inferring, I say inferring it is said roulette is not a sound investment.
Who claimed it to be one? Not me and as far as I can see not
MrE
which only leaves you.
Idiot, did I say idiot, oh yes of course I did.
Billy's Outback Shack
Can there ever be any wonder I have accused this person with such descriptive words as: –
Bully – Bombastic – Arrogant – Pig headed – Self opinionated – Rude – Degenerate – Ignorant – Idiot – Coward – Abhorrent – Intimidating – Obnoxious – Pathetic – Oppressor = Loathsome and Despot.
Having an Over Blown Ego & Lacking Internet etiquette.
I am sure there are some I missed but think these will do for now.
Idiot, did I say idiot, oh yes of course I did.
I’ve criticised you about
one
subject Billion, just one. Using a word you had already used on
yourself
and similar words…
…All those words (above) seem more general to me.
And you call me the "bully"?
"Look in the mirror".
Fine if you don’t like what I said about this one subject, but blimey! You’ve really lost the plot.
Value Is EverythingMrE
claims he is one to profit from roulette. Although I have no proof you cannot disprove his claim but you continue to post unused words (or at least not that I can see on review) inferring,
I say inferring it is said roulette is not a sound investment.
Who claimed it to be one?
MrE claimed…
:lol:
yeah, the mention ofroulette
does seem to have that effect on people, you hit the nail on the head there old friend. Nonetheless,
there are people that can make it work, me being one of those
.
If someone can "make something work" he/she is inferring their knowledge/skill can make the difference. ie MrE was saying his strategies made the difference, making roulette a
sound investment
for him.
Someone that claims he "can make it (roulette) work" is also expecting these strategies to keep working (paying), to keep making a profit.Where as the
FACT
is: Roulette is a game of luck/chance and so the more the game is played – the more likely you are the house will win.
As for prooving MrE’s profit/loss – I don’t need to. This is about each number having a definite % chance which is not as much as you’re paid out. ie A built in take out. So if MrE plays roulette only occasionally, then I’d have no problem believing his luck has held up to now. Or if he’s been lucky enough to have one or two big wins that’s paid for everything else (similar to a scoop 6 on the horses) then I can also believe he’s showing a profit. But if none of those things… If he plays regularly (as he seems to suggest) then I choose not to believe him. Over time luck runs out; because of the slight built in bias towards the house.
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Won 11/10 sp but we only want the 10/11 profit
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Almost but not quite correct. Already I have been "looking in the mirror" and thought perhaps my tactics were similar to those of your very own but there is a subtle difference, we, that is
MrE
and myself did not seek you out, as you did us.
He had the courage to walk away with you accusations hanging over him. I wanted to but chose to retaliate in the most vicious and vindictive manner I could summon, because exposure is something bullies fear most.
I believe my actions to be justified whereas you have twisted the truth with half truths and insinuations, innuendo and word manipulation.
No matter how many times you have been exposed for all you are you still remain in denial and continue with this imaginary crusade regardless of being told time and time again the web you have woven, for this self gratification trip, is simple self deception.
You are a very sad person and under different circumstances I could almost feel sorry for you but when you attempt to incorrectly expose a friend of mine as a charlatan and use my words in a way which is manipulated and completely untrue to reinforce such meanderings then I think my methods justified.
Billy's Outback Shack
Bugger me guys, it’s time to end this…. I left this place a few days ago, I just nipped on to see if anyone was talking behind my back…. wow!!!… not half they weren’t, no wonder my ears were burning, I thought I had a rash…. time to cool it guys, it’s getting out of hand…. and thank you for defending me Bill.
Let me just say in passing, I AM in profit from roulette albeit from stupid progressive staking… and I will get caught in the end, I suppose that’s what Whinge is saying…. but what he has forgotten to understand is that I have been betting for 50 years and the one thing I’m not, is a mug, I know the odds against me.
I like it that Bill has sprung up to put you in your place Whinge, that’s all credit to a mate, but you are the one that is really at fault for not even letting me start, you never even gave me a chance to explain before jumping down my throat.
Suffice it to say that I play "no zero" roulette and the 1.35% house "take" doesn’t apply…. OK, I have to pay a very small comm to Betfair from any winnings, but it’s not even close to the 1.35% for every spin on French Roulette.
So Whinge,for the sake of a bit of peace, will you refrain from having the last word and just let this subject drop…. enough has been said already…. lets assume that I’m losing hundreds, that should keep you happy.
Bill, yes, I agree with you regards Whinge, he most definitely is an arseole of the first order and obviously isn’t as bright as he thinks he is…. let it go now, for the sake of the "systems" section.
No good replying to me any of you because I won’t be back…. it was only a chance thing that I popped back this time…. bye all….. drop dead Whinge….MrE
Let me just say in passing, I AM in profit from roulette albeit from stupid progressive staking… and I will get caught in the end, I suppose that’s what Whinge is saying…. but what he has forgotten to understand is that I have been betting for 50 years and the one thing I’m not, is a mug, I know the odds against me.
MrE
Just how that fits in with the previous quote I guess we will never know.
"there are people that can make it work, me being one of those"
.
…And there you go Billion, what you’ve always wanted, MrE’s successful roulette system/strategy in a nutshell. "Progressive staking".
I always knew you were no mug MrE, would never call you that; plenty else, but never that.
Good Luck with your roulette…
Y’gunna need it!
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I backed this horse at 11/10 but for the purpose of the thread will call it 10/11
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When following a reasonable and rational explanation and word substitution by way of playing roulette in a way of orderliness as a strategy (alternative for system) the cretin pounces. Being such a stupid bigot he sees progressive staking as another weak point he can probe. The bullying character traits cannot help but rise to the surface.
Progressive staking.
Is this a crime?
Is it not a strategy?
CRETIN ENORMOUS: An enormous cretin, a fool of extraordinary magnitude whose stupidity is enmeshed with megalomania.
Additional words to add to the list: –
Bigot, Cretin & Megalomaniac.
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